On May 2, 12:19=A0pm, rab <rogeralanblackw...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On 1 May, 21:44, Vngelis <meberr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On May 1, 5:27 pm, rab <rogeralanblackw...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On 30 Apr, 22:31, Vngelis <meberr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > On Apr 30, 10:31 am, rab <rogeralanblackw...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > Vote for Livingstone and Labour!
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> > > > All else is hot air here is the bottom line...
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> > > The only reason for voting Labour is to keep the Tories out of
> > > office. =A0Any revolutionary movement of the working class will
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> > > the Labour Party in any case but it is necessary to defend the post
> > > WW2 gains of the working class against both Tory and Labour
> > > governments. =A0They are, however, not the same and vngelis's
> > > abstentionist position means that he abandons the working class to
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> > > Tories.
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> > > Roger
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> > The WRP votes Labour even when the turnout is as low as 30%.
> > Stating world revolution to every issue one is absolved of thinking
> > like when they ask for any worker to come to London to seek work. Its
> > like calling for scabs to seek to work cos they are hungry or dont
> > wont to be made homeless.
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> > The WRP-SWP-Workers Power-Weekly Worker etc are all Labourites to the
> > core.
> > There was a time when some of them actually thought, but that died out
> > years ago.
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> Your 'thinking' merely consists in parroting some latest book on
> 'globalization' or your reactionary xenophobia. =A0Developing
> revolutionary Marxism is alien to you.
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> > Whilst there are four seasons in a year there is only one line for the
> > WRP...
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> > Voting isn't a panacea. One must know when to vote and when not to
> > vote.
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> So it's a question of 'when not to vote is it?' =A0Those that refuse to
> defend the previous gains of the working class will not be able to
> make new ones - that's the principle here!
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> > Livingstone is standing on a pro-globalist ticket on how 'successful'
> > and multicultural London is, as if that has any meaning when the City
> > of London dominates and Brown is bending over backwards handing
> > workers money to the bankers, a move the SWP actually sup****ts.
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Livingstone lost as he is running on a pro-globalist ticket and all
the public services are collapsing under the impact of mass
immigration. That by its ver nature does not imply that Boris Johnsons
victory is anti-globalist either, but the pro-globalism and multi-
cultural no nation nonsense from the Labour Party is reaching its
historical impasse. I mean the Open Border crowd around the SWP-UK got
a few thousand votes and the anti-Open Border crowd significantly
more. The majority party once more where those who didn't vote.
If we are to state voter turnout bears no relation****p to voting and 3
people vote out of 10 then what we are saying is forget the context
just vote Labour anyway, we have always done it we always will...
These are the politics of clowns who refuse to think anything through.
When the working class voters are deserting Labour in their millions
in the post-industrial heartlands of the North to ask for a vote to
Labour (which is bending over backwards to hand millions of =A3 to
bankers) then the degenerate left are truly squaring the circle of
mass immigration and globalism, by missing out stages. Why bother to
even vote Labour? Ask for peoples salaries directly to hand them over
to the nearest bank. I mean after all the SWP openly states we should
take over City institutions and bail them out and I didn't here ONE
single person coment from the usual suspects.
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