Re: Stiglitz: a massive burden of debt visited on future generations

On Wed, 7 May 2008, nada wrote:

>
> Well, in the US I don't know of any group that *agitates for open
> borders*. None that I know of including immigrant rights groups, let
> alone the broadly defined "Left". Plus, "open borders" is like the
> principal of free speech or workers control under the Dictator****p of
> the Proletariat. These are all subodrinate to the defense of the State
> against imperialist intervention. It would be interesting to see
> others chime in on this question.
>

Ditto that, though I suspect if you look around enough, you'll find 
some group or other still arguing for "open borders," which used to be 
a more popular position on the American left back when it was more 
leftist. In America, unlike parts of Europe perhaps, foreign 
immigration is unpopular these days, except among the immigrants 
themselves and their relatives.

For those interested in ancient archives of APST, this question has 
been discussed here many times before, long long ago...

According to my hazy memory, Dave has changed his position from the 
one he was arguing lo those many years ago, and changed it in a good 
way.

-jh-