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by Vngelis <meberry68@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 8, 2008 at 03:00 AM

Global Famine

by Michel Chossudovsky

Global Research, May 2, 2008

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    Humanity is undergoing in the post-Cold War era an economic and
social crisis of unprecedented scale leading to the rapid
impoverishment of large sectors of the World population. National
economies are collapsing, unemployment is rampant. Local level famines
have erupted in Sub-Saharan Africa, South Asia and parts of Latin
America. This "globalization of poverty" --which has largely reversed
the achievements of post-war decolonization-- was initiated in the
Third World coinciding with the debt crisis of the early 1980s and the
imposition of the IMF's deadly economic reforms.

    The New World Order feeds on human poverty and the destruction of
the natural environment. It generates social apartheid, encourages
racism and ethnic strife, undermines the rights of women and often
precipitates countries into destructive confrontations between
nationalities. Since the 1990s, it has extended its grip to all major
regions of the World including North America, Western Europe, the
countries of the former Soviet block and the "Newly Industrialized
Countries" (NICs) of South East Asia and the Far East.

    This Worldwide crisis is more devastating than the Great
Depression of the 1930s. It has far-reaching geo-political
implications; economic dislocation has also been accompanied by the
outbreak of regional wars, the fracturing of national societies and in
some cases the destruction of entire countries. By far this is the
most serious economic crisis in modern history. (Michel Chossudovsky,
The Globalization of Poverty, First Edition, 1997)

Introduction

Famine is the result of a process of "free market" restructuring of
the global economy which has its roots in the debt crisis of the early
1980s.  It is not a recent phenomenon as suggested by several Western
media re****ts. The latter narrowly focus on short-term supply and
demand for agricultural staples, while obfuscating the broader
structural causes of global famine.

Poverty and chronic undernourishment is a pre-existing condition. The
recent hikes in food prices have contributed to exacerbating and
aggravating the food crisis. The price hikes are hitting an
impoverished population, which has barely the means to survive.

Food riots have erupted  almost simultaneously in all major regions of
the World:

    "Food prices in Haiti had risen on average by 40 percent in less
than a year, with the cost of staples such as rice doubling.... In
Bangladesh, [in late April 2008] some 20,000 textile workers took to
the streets to denounce soaring food prices and demand higher wages.
The price of rice in the country has doubled over the past year,
threatening the workers, who earn a monthly salary of just $25, with
hunger. In Egypt, protests by workers over food prices rocked the
textile center of Mahalla al-Kobra, north of Cairo, for two days last
week, with two people shot dead by security forces. Hundreds were
arrested, and the government sent plainclothes police into the
factories to force workers to work. Food prices in Egypt have risen by
40 percent in the past year... Earlier this month, in the Ivory Coast,
thousands marched on the home of President Laurent Gbagbo, chanting
=93we are hungry=94 and =93life is too expensive, you are going to kill
us.

    Similar demonstrations, strikes and clashes have taken place in
Bolivia, Peru, Mexico, Indonesia, the Philippines, Pakistan,
Uzbekistan, Thailand, Yemen, Ethiopia, and throughout most of sub-
Saharan Africa." (Bill Van Auken, Amid mounting food crisis,
governments fear revolution of the hungry, Global Research, April
2008)

"Eliminating the Poor"

With large sectors of the World population already well below the
poverty line, the short-term hike in the prices of food staples is
devastating. Millions of people around the World are unable to
purchase food for their survival

These hikes are contributing in a very real sense to "eliminating the
poor" through "starvation deaths". In the words of Henry Kissinger:
"Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control the
people."

In this regard, Kissinger had intimated in the context of the 1974
National Security Study Memorandum 200: Implications of Worldwide
Population Growth for U.S. Security and Overseas Interests". that the
recurrence of famines could constitute a de facto instrument of
population control.

According to the FAO, the price of grain staples has increased by 88%
since March 2007. The price of wheat has increased by 181% over a
three year period. The price of rice has increased by 50% over the
last three months (See Ian Angus, Food Crisis: "The greatest
demonstration of the historical failure of the capitalist model",
Global Research, April 2008):

     "The most popular grade of Thailand rice sold for $198 a ton,
five years ago and $323 a ton a year ago. In April 2008, the price hit
$1,000. Increases are even greater on local markets =97 in Haiti, the
market price of a 50 kilo bag of rice doubled in one week at the end
of March 2008. These increases are catastrophic for the 2.6 billion
people around the world who live on less than US$2 a day and spend 60%
to 80% of their incomes on food. Hundreds of millions cannot afford to
eat" (Ibid)

Two Interrelated Dimensions

There are two interrelated dimensions to the ongoing global food
crisis, which has spearheaded millions of people around the World into
starvation and chronic deprivation, a situation in which entire
population groups no longer have the means to purchase food.

First, there is a long term historical process of macroeconomic policy
reform and global economic restructuring which has contributed to
depressing the standard living Worldwide in both the developing and
developed countries.

Second, these preexisting historical conditions of mass poverty have
been exacerbated and aggravated by the recent surge in grain prices,
which have led in some cases to the doubling of the retail price of
food staples. These price hikes are in large part the result of
speculative trade in food staples.

Speculative Surge in Grain Prices

The media has casually misled public opinion on the causes of these
price hikes, focusing almost exclusively on issues of costs of
production, climate and other factors which result in reduced supply
and which might contribute to boosting the price of food staples.
While these factors may come into play, they are of limited relevance
in explaining the impressive and dramatic surge in commodity prices.

Spiraling food prices are in large part the result of market
manipulation. They are largely attributable to speculative trade on
the commodity markets. Grain prices are boosted artificially by large
scale speculative operations on the New York and Chicago mercantile
exchanges. It is worth noting that in 2007, the Chicago Board of Trade
(CBOT), merged with the Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME), forming the
largest Worldwide entity dealing in commodity trade including a wide
range of speculative instruments (options, options on futures, index
funds, etc).

Speculative trade in wheat, rice or corn, can occur without the
occurrence of real commodity transactions. The institutions
speculating in the grain market are not necessarily involved in the
actual selling or delivery of grain.

The transactions may use commodity index funds which are bets on the
general upward or downward movement of commodity prices. A "put
option" is a bet that the price will go down, a  "call option" is a
bet that the price will go up. Through concerted manipulation,
institutional traders and financial institutions make the price go up
and then place their bets on an upward movement in the price of a
particular commodity.

Speculation generates market volatility. In turn, the resulting
instability encourages further speculative activity.

Profits are made when the price goes up. Conversely, if the speculator
is short-selling the market, money will be made when the price
collapses.

This recent speculative surge in food prices has been conducive to a
Worldwide process of famine formation on an unprecedented scale.

The Absence of Regulatory Measures Triggers Famine

These speculative operations do not purposely trigger famine.

What triggers famine is the absence of regulatory procedures
pertaining to speculative trade (options, options on futures,
commodity index funds). In the present context, a freeze of
speculative trade in food staples, taken as a political decision,
would immediately contribute to lower food prices.

Nothing prevents these transactions from being neutralized and defused
through a set of carefully devised regulatory measures.

Visibly, this is not what is being proposed by the World Bank and the
International Monetary Fund.

The Role of the IMF and the World Bank

The World Bank and the IMF have come forth with an emergency plan, to
boost agriculture in response to the "food crisis". The causes of this
crisis, however, are not addressed.

The World Bank's president Robert B. Zoellick describes this
initiative as a  "new deal", an action plan "for a long-term boost to
agricultural production.", which consists inter alia in a doubling of
agricultural loans to African farmers.

     "We have to put our money where our mouth is now so that we can
put food into hungry mouths" (Robert Zoellick, World Bank head,
quoted  by BBC, 2 May 2008)

IMF/World Bank "economic medicine" is not the "solution" but in large
part the "cause" of famine in developing countries. More IMF-World
Bank lending "to boost agriculture" will serve to increase levels of
indebtedness and exacerbate rather alleviate poverty.

World Bank "policy based loans" are granted on condition the countries
abide by the neoliberal policy agenda which, since the early 1980s,
has been conducive to the collapse of local level food agriculture.

"Macro-economic stabilization" and structural adjustment programs
imposed by the IMF and the World Bank on developing countries (as a
condition for the renegotiation of their external debt) have led to
the impoverishment of hundreds of millions of people.

The harsh economic and social realities underlying IMF intervention
are soaring food prices, local-level famines, massive lay-offs of
urban workers and civil servants and the destruction of  social
programs. Internal purchasing power has collapsed, health clinics and
schools have been closed down, hundreds of millions of children have
been denied the right to primary education.

IMF Shock Treatment

Historically, spiraling food prices at the retail level have been
triggered by currency devaluations, which have invariably resulted in
a hyperinflationary situation. In Peru in August 1990, for instance,
on the orders of the IMF, fuel prices increased overnight by 30 times.
The price of bread increased twelve times overnight:

    "Throughout the Third World, the situation is one of social
desperation and hopelessness of a population impoverished by the
interplay of market forces. Anti-SAP riots and popular uprisings are
brutally repressed: Caracas, 1989. President Carlos Andres Perez after
having rhetorically denounced the IMF of practicing "an economic
totalitarianism which kills not with bullets but with famine",
declares a state of emergency and sends regular units of the infantry
and the marines into the slum areas (barrios de ranchos) on the hills
overlooking the capital. The Caracas anti-IMF riots had been sparked
off as a result of a 200 per cent increase in the price of bread. Men,
women and children were fired upon indiscriminately: "The Caracas
morgue was re****ted to have up to 200 bodies of people killed in the
first three days ... and warned that it was running out of coffins".
Unofficially more than a thousand people were killed. Tunis, January
1984: the bread riots instigated largely by unemployed youth
protesting the rise of food prices; Nigeria, 1989: the anti-SAP
student riots leading to the closing of six of the country=92s
universities by the Armed Forces Ruling Council; Morocco, 1990: a
general strike and a popular uprising against the government=92s IMF-
sponsored reforms." (Michel Chossudovsky, op cit.)

The Deregulation of Grain Markets

Since the 1980s, grain markets have been deregulated under the
supervision of the World Bank and US/EU grain surpluses are used
systematically to destroy the peasantry and destabilize national food
agriculture. In this regard, World Bank lending requires the lifting
of trade barriers on im****ted agricultural staples, leading to the
dumping of US/EU grain surpluses onto local market. These and other
measures have spearheaded local agricultural producers into
bankruptcy.

A "free market" in grain --imposed by the IMF and the World Bank--
destroys the peasant economy and undermines "food security". Malawi
and Zimbabwe were once prosperous grain surplus countries, Rwanda was
virtually self-sufficient in food until 1990 when the IMF ordered the
dumping of EU and US grain surpluses on the domestic market
precipitating small farmers into bankruptcy. In 1991-92, famine had
hit Kenya, East Africa's most successful bread-basket economy. The
Nairobi government had been previously placed on a black list for not
having obeyed IMF prescriptions. The deregulation of the grain market
had been demanded as one of the conditions for the rescheduling of
Nairobi's external debt with the Paris Club of official creditors.
(Michel Chossudovsky, The Globalization of Poverty and the New World
Order, Second Edition, Montreal 2003)

Throughout Africa, as well as in Southeast Asia and Latin America, the
pattern of "sectoral adjustment" in agriculture under the custody of
the Bretton Woods institutions has been unequivocally towards the
destruction of food security. Dependency vis-=E0-vis the world market
has been reinforced leading to a boost in commercial grain im****ts as
well as an increase in the influx of "food aid".

Agricultural producers were encouraged to abandon food farming and
switch into "high value" ex****t crops. often  to the detriment of food
self-sufficiency. The high value products as well as the cash crops
for ex****t were sup****ted by World Bank loans.

Famines in the age of globalization are the result of policy. Famine
is not the consequence of a scarcity of food but in fact quite the
opposite: global food surpluses are used to destabilize agricultural
production in developing countries.

Tightly regulated and controlled by international agro-business, this
oversupply is ultimately conducive to the stagnation of both
production and consumption of essential food staples and the
impoverishment of farmers throughout the world.  Moreover, in the era
of globalization, the IMF-World Bank structural adjustment program
bears a direct relation****p to the process of famine formation because
it systematically undermines all categories of economic activity,
whether urban or rural, which do not directly serve the interests of
the global market system.

The earnings of farmers in rich and poor countries alike are squeezed
by a handful of global agro-industrial enterprises which
simultaneously control the markets for grain, farm inputs, seeds and
processed foods. One giant firm Cargill Inc. with more than 140
affiliates and subsidiaries around the World controls a large share of
the international trade in grain. Since the 1950s, Cargill became the
main contractor of US "food aid" funded under Public Law 480 (1954).

World agriculture has for the first time in history the capacity to
satisfy the food requirements of the entire planet, yet the very
nature of the global market system prevents this from occurring. The
capacity to produce food is immense yet the levels of food consumption
remain exceedingly low because a large share of the World's population
lives in conditions of abject poverty and deprivation. Moreover, the
process of "modernization" of agriculture has led to the dispossession
of the peasantry, increased landlessness and environmental
degradation. In other words, the very forces which encourage global
food production to expand are also conducive antithetically to a
contraction in the standard of living and a decline in the demand for
food.

Genetically Modified Seeds

Coinciding with the establishment the World Trade Organization (WTO)
in 1995, another im****tant historical change has occurred in the
structure of global agriculture.

Under the articles of agreement of the World Trade Organization
(WTO)), the food giants will have unrestricted freedom to enter the
seeds markets of developing countries. The acquisition of exclusive
"intellectual property rights" over plant varieties by international
agro-industrial interests, also favors the destruction of bio-
diversity.

Acting on behalf of a handful of biotech conglomerates, GMO seeds have
been imposed on farmers, often in the context of "food aid programs".
In Ethiopia, for instance, kits of GMO seeds were handed out to
impoverished farmers with a view to rehabilitating agricultural
production in the wake of a major drought . The GMO seeds were
planted, yielding a harvest. But then the farmer came to realize that
the GMO seeds could not be replanted without paying royalties to
Monsanto, Arch Daniel Midland et al. Then, the farmers discovered that
the seeds would harvest only if they used the farm inputs including
the fertilizer, insecticide and herbicide, produced and distributed by
the biotech agribusiness companies. Entire peasant economies were
locked into the grip of the agribusiness conglomerates.

Breaking The Agricultural Cycle

With the widespread adoption of GMO seeds, a major transition has
occurred in the structure and history of settled agriculture since its
inception 10,000 years ago.

The reproduction of seeds at the village level in local nurseries has
been disrupted by the use of genetically modified seeds.  The
agricultural cycle, which enables farmers to store their organic seeds
and plant them to reap the next harvest has been broken. This
destructive pattern =96 invariably resulting in famine =96 is replicated
in country after country leading to the Worldwide demise of the
peasant economy.
 




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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-18 00:54:16 
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stephen <srdiamond@[EM  2008-05-17 22:52:17 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-05-18 00:51:22 
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