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Re: Massive Starvation For World Feared Over Myanmar And Chile Catastrophes

by Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.newsLOVELYSPAM@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 9, 2008 at 03:13 AM

On 2008-05-09 02:44 +0100, dusty allegedly wrote:
> On May 9, 8:45 am, Vngelis <meberr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On May 8, 11:07 pm, Daniele Futtorovic
>> 
>> <da.futt.newsLOVELYS...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> The Earth is ****ing overcrowded. In rich countries as well as in
>>>  poor ones (only it is more flagrant in poor ones). The last 
>>> article posted by Vngelis claims that global agricultural 
>>> production is sufficient to nourish the staggering six-plus 
>>> billion. Maybe it is (although one would have to ask 
>>> additionally: what's "enough"? Is a bowl of rice enough?). But 
>>> there's more to life than food.
> Some people use an even harsher
>> term: genocide.http://www.meehanre****ts.com/billionaire.html
> 
> 
> Good in parts...but... it appears that Meehan is an official or 
> unofficial spokesman for the Catholic Church. No problem

Yes problem.

> – ideas are ideas

Religious "ideas" are NOT ideas. They're programs.

> - except the motivation of that institution – to ensure that there 
> are more Catholics and a general lack of concern about the dignity 
> and economic well-being of the individual person.

There's more to it than that. Religion is the ESSENCE of oppression.
Religions, through all times and ages, have symbolized oppression --
that is translated it into some mumbo-jumbo riddled which ***ual content
designed to appeal to the crippled characters that are the product of
what's commonly called "education" of children -- and then enforced it
back on the m***** (with the help of states entities they propped).

"Churches are the ***-political agencies of the ruling class" W. Reich.

> They have shown themselves over and over again to come in on the side
>  of the rich

The catholic church is, AFAIK, the biggest cor****ation on Earth.

> (with honourable exceptions in the lower, and rarely higher clergy – 
> but these are isolated). I have in mind the image of the last Pope 
> John Paul in Nicaragua responding to the calls of m***** of people 
> for “justicia… justicia… justicia… justicia” with an authoritarian 
> “silencia… silencia… silencia…”
> 
> 
> The Catholic Church churns out propaganda against not only abortion 
> but birth control as well - and this has a considerable effect in 
> lands in which they have much influence on the people – and results 
> in considerable misery.
> 
> Frankly I think that Catholic Church ideology in the most im****tant 
> things including population control intersects with the programme of 
> neo-liberal economics.

No wonder. It's the same thing with a different (fairy-tale) language.

> This is not to say that the family is an outmoded institution in a 
> cold capitalist world - far from it -

Family is the very ROOT of all problems we face on this planet.

> and that this provides achievable possibilities for people who have 
> little other freedoms.

.... and procrastinates that status.

> Children are a bonus in that context - but the Church opposes 
> effective control over that.

Because no concept is more alien to religions than having control over
one's own life.

> None of this implies disrespect for the churchgoing m*****,

It does on my behalf -- just in case anyone wonders.

> many of whom find in the church on a day to day basis someone who 
> cares for them - an illusion but "true" nevertheless.

Religions soothe evils they have themselves created, and that's the way
they perpetuate themselves. As a marketing strategy, it really compels
respect.

-- 
DF.
 




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Massive Starvation For World Feared Over Myanmar And Chile
Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-08 02:36:30 
Re: Massive Starvation For World Feared Over Myanmar And Chile
Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-08 02:50:04 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-08 03:00:52 
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dusty <trackdusty@[EMA  2008-05-08 04:33:33 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-09 00:07:40 
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dave.walters@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-08 13:35:13 
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"Mr. Green Jeans&quo  2008-05-08 15:14:59 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-09 02:50:28 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-08 15:40:15 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-08 15:45:58 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-09 02:48:09 
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dusty <trackdusty@[EMA  2008-05-08 15:46:38 
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dusty <trackdusty@[EMA  2008-05-08 17:05:45 
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dusty <trackdusty@[EMA  2008-05-08 17:44:02 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-09 03:13:13 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-05-08 20:30:29 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-09 23:19:32 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-09 01:55:41 
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dusty <trackdusty@[EMA  2008-05-09 04:33:49 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-10 05:08:07 
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rab <rogeralanblackwel  2008-05-09 04:39:28 
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"Mr. Green Jeans&quo  2008-05-09 14:46:08 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-05-09 15:17:25 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-10 01:29:48 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-05-09 17:35:23 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-10 03:44:14 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-10 03:46:13 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-05-09 20:29:28 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-10 07:22:04 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-05-10 00:57:24 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-10 13:39:54 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-10 18:17:26 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-11 07:56:07 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-11 08:32:47 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-10 08:18:22 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-05-10 09:57:55 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-10 19:03:08 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-10 19:25:43 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-11 07:50:00 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-11 08:49:27 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-05-10 14:04:13 
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Bert Byfield <BertByfi  2008-05-10 22:31:21 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-11 17:06:13 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-11 00:15:07 
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Einde O'Callaghan <ein  2008-05-11 14:50:41 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-11 00:26:09 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-11 00:41:57 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-11 00:53:48 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-11 10:31:08 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-05-11 01:39:14 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-11 13:22:36 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-11 01:57:46 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-11 18:18:44 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-11 01:58:32 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-11 04:39:39 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-11 14:35:56 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-11 19:56:48 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-11 11:49:53 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-05-11 14:33:31 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-11 23:52:47 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-13 18:01:56 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-13 18:10:42 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-11 22:43:54 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-11 22:50:30 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-12 01:32:02 
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Einde O'Callaghan <ein  2008-05-12 14:03:02 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-13 11:52:11 
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Einde O'Callaghan <ein  2008-05-13 21:42:37 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-14 23:57:36 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-16 17:26:06 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-16 16:28:08 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-05-16 17:45:52 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-17 16:31:37 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-18 00:54:16 
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stephen <srdiamond@[EM  2008-05-18 10:27:55 
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Bert Byfield <BertByfi  2008-05-18 19:31:33 
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