Re: Stiglitz: a massive burden of debt visited on future generations

On Sat, 10 May 2008, Stephen R. Diamond wrote:

> On Fri, 09 May 2008 12:00:34 -0700, nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> ...What does Open Borders Mean? Stop 
> crackdowns on union-organized immigrant workers. With that demand
perhaps we 
> all agree. Defend Mexican immigrants apprehended in trying to cross the 
> border? On that the orthodox position is the same position we take on 
> ordinary crime -- essentially, no position...

That implies that crossing a border of a capitalist state without 
permission is an "ordinary crime" presumably no different from theft 
or assault. On which, by the way, "the orthodox position" is hardly 
neutrality I should hope.

Since what is violated here is not the rights of an individual but the 
rights of the capitalist state, this does not follow from opposition 
to raising the *positive* demand of open borders in the least.

Indeed since a worker arrested for crossing the American border is a 
worker arrested by the capitalist state for an act in violation of the 
laws of the state that does not harm the interests of actual human 
beings, workers or otherwise, defense is highly appropriate.

Especially given the brutal and racist nature of INS persecution of 
illegal Mexican immigrants.

-jh-