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Re: Stiglitz: a massive burden of debt visited on future generations

by nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 9, 2008 at 10:03 PM

On May 9, 4:44=A0pm, Daniele Futtorovic
<da.futt.newsLOVELYS...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On 2008-05-09 20:01 +0100, Stephen R. Diamond allegedly wrote:
>
> > (I use the demand/task distinction differently. Abolition of the
family
> > is a revolutionary task, not a demand. This means you don't fight for
it=

> > directly; it is a byproduct. Daniele probably disagrees.
>
> Somewhat. It's more than a task, more than a by-product. But it's not
> necessarily a "demand" -- though it depends on what you mean by a
"demand"=
..
>
> It's certainly not a demand as f.i. higher wages are. Abolition of the
> family is not something you can demand from the government or any body
> of the current system. It's pointless to face a system with demands if
> fulfilling those demands would jeopardise that system itself.
>
> But it's more than a mere task in that it should be, IMO, strongly
> incor****ated into propaganda. It ought to be part of the program. For
> the fight against one's own family is something that goes about every
> day every second in the current world. And those who undertake this
> struggle (and more so those who win it) are at good deal more promising
> human material for a revolution than those who don't.
>
> --
> DF.

I would say "abolition of the family" in neither a 'demand' nor a
'task' but a consequence of the elimination of class rule based on
super-abundence. It is something that flows from the victory of
socialism on a world scale that unleashes human potential.

David
 




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Stiglitz: a massive burden of debt visited on future generations
dusty <trackdusty@[EMA  2008-05-06 04:31:05 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-06 11:30:21 
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"Mr. Green Jeans&quo  2008-05-06 14:27:46 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-06 15:35:10 
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dusty <trackdusty@[EMA  2008-05-07 07:32:22 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-07 08:28:45 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-08 18:21:59 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-05-07 09:43:15 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-07 09:52:01 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-05-07 10:46:31 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-07 10:58:57 
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"Mr. Green Jeans&quo  2008-05-07 14:30:08 
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dave.walters@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-08 12:33:44 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-09 18:01:40 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-10 01:44:17 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-10 00:34:20 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-10 20:00:10 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-10 18:12:57 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-11 17:08:21 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-05-10 23:04:21 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-11 19:46:39 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-10 23:21:07 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-05-11 15:24:56 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-13 18:08:09 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-11 15:47:45 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-12 01:17:31 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-11 15:52:57 
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dusty <trackdusty@[EMA  2008-05-11 17:17:49 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-14 23:47:48 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-14 23:46:15 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-11 18:07:31 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-12 01:39:44 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-12 02:00:00 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-05-13 17:05:44 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-14 16:45:34 
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