On May 14, 6:11 am, dusty <trackdu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 14, 12:06 pm, nada <dwalters...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > I never realised Aus. had that much NG. Why then do they burn all that
> > coal for power? NG is much cleaner all the way around.
>
> > The problem with the "Trotskyist" solutions down there you mention are
> > a lot different than 'reformist' solutions, Dusty. They simply don't
> > understand the science or physics, even at the base level I do, and
> > think the wind and sun can provide the base load power needed to
> > shutdown the coal industry. It's simply crazy and will cost
> > Australians billions of dollars they need not spent.
>
> > David
>
> You mean they aren't reformist enough? No, I don't think you mean
> that. You mean that their "solutions" are not as "practical" as a
> solution to the crisis that capitalism presents as the kind of
> "solution" propsed by a savvy reformist paty like the ALP (Australian
> Labour Party) now in govenment. You see, they get THEIR solutions from
> BIG business.
>
> You ought to drop that reformist line of yours that you are angling to
> cast - nuclear energy - put it in mothballs till socialism - on this
> question a lot of the stuff the Greens say on it is correct - though
> subject to revision at the drop of a hat - meaning if the pressures
> from capitalism become dramatised enough -say if that policy against
> nuclear energy conflicted with that of mass immigration - entirely
> possible here - I know which one they would opt for - after all they
> dropped their earlier policy based on the notion that the ecological
> fragility of Australia imposed definite population barriers to
> accomodate mass immigration...
No...since when do Marxists not fight for reforms Dusty? This would be
a strange excuse to ultra-left sectarianism don't you think. It'sl ike
"don't go on strike, fight for revolution!" and other nonsense.
On very little the Greens say is true. I'm for nuclear power now
because it's the only solution to the problems of carbon particulate
death (30,000 a year in the US) and CO2 emissions. Even "under
capitalism" it's proved to be both cheaper and safer than ANY form of
generation. The Greens have their heads up their ***** and want to
condemn the majority of the worlds 2,000,000,000 poor to burning
'renewables' like their forests and cow dung. I'm for electrification
by-any-means-necessary to make life more livable. Call it 'reformist',
I call it life and civilization. It certainly is, as Lenin noted, the
material basis for communism. We don't stop development until AFTER
the revolution after all.
David
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