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Re: Hamas on the Holocaust

by Vngelis <meberry68@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 16, 2008 at 12:25 AM

On May 16, 1:07 am, nada <dwalters...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 15, 2:41 pm, Vngelis <meberr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 15, 10:15 pm, nada <dwalters...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > Having also not read carefully, you are even worse Vngelis.
> > > First...you simply repeat what I charge you with: "First you said I
> > > lied about your position that your sup****t a Jewish state in the
> > > Middle East then you ask people to be careful about what
> > > I say about you to others."
>
> > > Yes...you are a liar as you invent positions you know are fasle. So
> > > AGAIN: find where I EVER sup****ted the Jewish state. Or, you are a
> > > liar. Or...you are stupid because you should no my position doesn't
> > > differ from Ralph Schoenmans OR that on ANY position of the Fourth
> > > International. No, go, shoo, find it.
>
> > > Secondly, I ALSO stated that it was nonsense "You continue to allege
> > > that Ahmedinajad stated that he wants Israel to be wiped off the
> > > map...he is what I said that you obviously did't read: "The only
thing
> > > 'fabricated' is his take on 'wiping Israel off the map'. "
>
> > > In other words, the meaning of Ahmedinajad's statement is more or
less
> > > like that the re****ter uses to expose the charges against him.
>
> > > What I realize is that on specific issues like Zionism or whether
> > > Ahmedinajad stated what he said or not WHERE we agree...you have
> > > actually LIE about my position in order make up a difference with
> > > which to argue. I have one suggestion: don't stop. No, really, like
I
> > > stated, it's the only reason I'm on APST. To torture small animials.
> > > You in this case.
>
> > > David
>
> > You cant criticise Ahmedinajad for his perceived positions on the
> > Holocaust by who was invited.
> > Your friends on the editorial board of MIA justify inviting speakers
> > from the Pentagon so a Conference on the Holocaust which has opened
> > the way for Hamas to have written what it has was progressive even if
> > you pretend it wasn't.
>
> > This is now from the horses mouth
> > Condemnation
>
> > Criticism of the forum grew as its second day went ahead.
>
> > Dana Perino, a White House spokesman, said: "The gathering ... in
> > Tehran is an affront to the entire civilised world, as well as to the
> > traditional Iranian values of tolerance and mutual respect."
>
> > "Anti-Semitism has no place in Europe; nor should it in any other part
> > of the world"
>
> > Franco Frattini, EU Justice and Home Affairs Commissioner
> > Tony Blair, the British prime minister, voiced his disapproval of the
> > conference.
>
> > He said: "I think it is such a symbol of sectarianism and hatred
> > towards people of another religion - I find it just unbelievable.
>
> > "If you're going to invite the former head of the Ku Klux Klan to a
> > conference in Tehran which disputes the millions of people who died in
> > the Holocaust, then what further evidence do you need to  have that
> > this regime is extreme?"
>
> > Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, said her country would never
> > accept such a conference and would "counter it in every way we can".
>
> > She said: "It shows the danger of the situation Israel is in and in
> > particular the threat that Israel lives under."
>
> >
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>
>
>http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/11372A84-1E7B-400C-9B16-298CDD...
>
> > Your position differs not ONE IOTA from Blair the social-democratic
> > imperialist lickspittle.
> > At least that much is clear, hence your sup****t for the Jewish state
> > is implied when you condemn the Holocaust Conference in the manner of
> > these warmongers...
> > vngelis
>
> OK, so, let me get this right: The reactionary theocratic  president
> of Iran, who breaks strikes and keeps the SAVAK in play under a new
> name, represses students, can't even produce it's own gasoline (has to
> buy from more reactionary Saudi regime) because the stupid idiot gov't
> refuses to invest in refinery capacity, this president, he's allowed
> to invite reactionary KKK and Neo-Nazis as "allies" to discuss the
> Holocaust, but some SWP-UKer speaks on the same platform to debate a
> representative of the UK gov't, THAT is a bad thing? Is that right?
>
> David

Fukuyama is a representative of the US government the same government
that has been responsible for over a million Iraqui deaths. The
Iranian president has not been involved in mass murder on such a large
scale.
So as stated before not only are you anti-Chinese, anti-Iranian you
are also a pro-'Jewish' ie US airbase sup****ter but with a pseudo-left
mantra using the excuse of some clowns to justify attacking
Ahmedinajad in the same vein as your social-democratic imperialist
Labour Party whom you assume to be on the ...left of the stalinists of
old!
vngelis
 




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Hamas on the Holocaust
Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-13 13:08:26 
Re: Hamas on the Holocaust
nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-13 16:28:16 
Re: Hamas on the Holocaust
dusty <trackdusty@[EMA  2008-05-13 17:24:04 
Re: Hamas on the Holocaust
Bert Byfield <BertByfi  2008-05-14 01:04:45 
Re: Hamas on the Holocaust
nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-13 19:03:17 
Re: Hamas on the Holocaust
Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-14 01:05:38 
Re: Hamas on the Holocaust
dusty <trackdusty@[EMA  2008-05-14 06:53:09 
Re: Hamas on the Holocaust
nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-14 08:35:16 
Re: Hamas on the Holocaust
Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-14 15:17:00 
Re: Hamas on the Holocaust
nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-15 08:24:59 
Re: Hamas on the Holocaust
Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-15 11:28:51 
Re: Hamas on the Holocaust
nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-15 14:15:42 
Re: Hamas on the Holocaust
Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-15 14:41:29 
Re: Hamas on the Holocaust
nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-15 17:07:20 
Re: Hamas on the Holocaust
Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-16 00:25:41 
Re: Hamas on the Holocaust
Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-16 01:08:04 

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