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Re: HAARP: High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program

by Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallaghan@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 18, 2008 at 07:44 AM

Vngelis wrote:
> On May 17, 11:28 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> interkom.de> wrote:
>> Vngelis wrote:
>>> What is HAARP?
>>> http://tinyurl.com/6okgy5
>>> Still haven't seen one IOTA of criticism from the globalresearch dudes
>>> on this issue?
>>> Probably too many footnotes at the bottom of the page which makes it
>>> too hard from our resident science quacks who confuse the military
>>> with cartoons and assume technology is still where it was in the era
>>> of the Vietnam war...
>> Among other things, mind control through radiation!!! This is something
>> from a Soviet era Strugatsky Brothers sci fi novel - Neal Stephenson
has
>> also written a sci fi fantasy on these lines.
>>
>> I was fascinated by the copious supply of footnotes on this video.
>>
>> I fear that the problem is that Vangelis has no idea of scientific
>> method as used in the natural sciences and therefore takes anything
with
>> a sufficient supply of technologese as gospel as long as it fits with
>> his preconceptions.
>>
>> I look forward to ever newer and ever more "interesting" exposes in the
>> more exotic aspects of "science",
>>
>> Einde O'Callaghan
> 
> The pre-conceptions as you call them are the oil and gas wars
> inaugurated by PNAC in its desire to offset the collapsing dollar. The
> fact that Burma, Sudan, Iran all do oil deals with China is a
> coincidence too far. All else is justifying US imperialism as you do
> constanty on this site...
> 
> Among you 4-5 what I learn is that there is no conflict with China and
> Russia, the Yanks aren't out to occupy the world and mass starvation
> isn't a policy of the agrobusiness?

Of course there are conflicts between the USA, China and Russia - just 
as there are between the USA and the EU countries both as a collective 
and as individual states. And despite the EU there are conflicts and 
rivalries between the individual EU states. After all, we live in a 
capitalist world which is moulded by competition between companies and 
also between states.

But of course you don't argue with the real positions of your opponents; 
you simply make up positions, allege your opponents hold them and then 
shoot them down. That's so much easier than honest intellectual argument.

Einde O'Calaghan
 




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