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Re: HAARP: High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program

by Vngelis <meberry68@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 18, 2008 at 11:53 AM

On May 17, 11:28 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Vngelis wrote:
> > What is HAARP?
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/6okgy5
>
> > Still haven't seen one IOTA of criticism from the globalresearch dudes
> > on this issue?
> > Probably too many footnotes at the bottom of the page which makes it
> > too hard from our resident science quacks who confuse the military
> > with cartoons and assume technology is still where it was in the era
> > of the Vietnam war...
>
> Among other things, mind control through radiation!!! This is something
> from a Soviet era Strugatsky Brothers sci fi novel - Neal Stephenson has
> also written a sci fi fantasy on these lines.
>
> I was fascinated by the copious supply of footnotes on this video.
>
> I fear that the problem is that Vangelis has no idea of scientific
> method as used in the natural sciences and therefore takes anything with
> a sufficient supply of technologese as gospel as long as it fits with
> his preconceptions.
>
> I look forward to ever newer and ever more "interesting" exposes in the
> more exotic aspects of "science",
>
> Einde O'Callaghan

Listen there are many things that appear on websites that are wacky
and spaced out.
But that would imply in other 'socialist' journals there aren't?

When the British organisation you sup****t stated there was no mass
immigration occurring whilst it was occurring right before everybodys
eyes and a point of view was expressed that the eventual aim of mass
immigration is the replacement of the domestic working class with a
globalised one, a whole manner of views were hurled from ...racist,
fascist, to BNP nutter.

Now the issue is whether weaponry exists to create or worsen existing
climate conditions, ie if a storm is developing make it worse or
create artificial floods to destroy an area full of crops. Your main
position is that this technology does not exist, much in the same
manner as you argued there was no threat from mass immigration to
jobs, housing, schooling etc.

You have just looked at a Video, comment on something else unrelated
to it and the central premise of the video you ignore. This is akin to
SRD's method. He refuses to discuss the evidence regarding 9/11 as he
doesn't want to be drawn into a discussion so to avoid the discussion
throws some pseudo-psychological quackery, regarding gays and
paranoia.

This is to avoid the point under discussion. If the issue of HAARP is
relevant to the anti-nuclear war movement of Russia (which Walters
would shoot down as he sup****ts nuclear energy) then one would have to
analyse what they are saying and take it on board if it is relevant.

This you cannot do as you state there is no such weaponry in existence
anyway anywhere.

vngelis
 




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HAARP: High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program
nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-16 09:50:32 
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stephen <srdiamond@[EM  2008-05-16 16:58:35 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-17 06:12:04 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-16 17:02:24 
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Tom Cod <tcod@[EMAIL P  2008-05-17 10:45:59 
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