Re: HAARP: High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program

On May 18, 6:44 am, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Vngelis wrote:
> > On May 17, 11:28 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > interkom.de> wrote:
> >> Vngelis wrote:
> >>> What is HAARP?
> >>>http://tinyurl.com/6okgy5
> >>> Still haven't seen one IOTA of criticism from the globalresearch
dudes
> >>> on this issue?
> >>> Probably too many footnotes at the bottom of the page which makes it
> >>> too hard from our resident science quacks who confuse the military
> >>> with cartoons and assume technology is still where it was in the era
> >>> of the Vietnam war...
> >> Among other things, mind control through radiation!!! This is
something
> >> from a Soviet era Strugatsky Brothers sci fi novel - Neal Stephenson
has
> >> also written a sci fi fantasy on these lines.
>
> >> I was fascinated by the copious supply of footnotes on this video.
>
> >> I fear that the problem is that Vangelis has no idea of scientific
> >> method as used in the natural sciences and therefore takes anything
with
> >> a sufficient supply of technologese as gospel as long as it fits with
> >> his preconceptions.
>
> >> I look forward to ever newer and ever more "interesting" exposes in
the
> >> more exotic aspects of "science",
>
> >> Einde O'Callaghan
>
> > The pre-conceptions as you call them are the oil and gas wars
> > inaugurated by PNAC in its desire to offset the collapsing dollar. The
> > fact that Burma, Sudan, Iran all do oil deals with China is a
> > coincidence too far. All else is justifying US imperialism as you do
> > constanty on this site...
>
> > Among you 4-5 what I learn is that there is no conflict with China and
> > Russia, the Yanks aren't out to occupy the world and mass starvation
> > isn't a policy of the agrobusiness?
>
> Of course there are conflicts between the USA, China and Russia - just
> as there are between the USA and the EU countries both as a collective
> and as individual states. And despite the EU there are conflicts and
> rivalries between the individual EU states. After all, we live in a
> capitalist world which is moulded by competition between companies and
> also between states.
>
> But of course you don't argue with the real positions of your opponents;
> you simply make up positions, allege your opponents hold them and then
> shoot them down. That's so much easier than honest intellectual
argument.
>
> Einde O'Calaghan

In the real world one can never truly have an 'honest' argument with
globalists.
For their positions orginate from the very nature of the beast which
currently roots the world.
Someone who creates labels before engaging in a discussion and seeks
to ****tray an opponent as a fascist, or a nutter cant expect 'equal
treatment' for that would be like playing a game of chess and
announcing your next move before your opponent has played theirs.

There isn't simply competition. There is a global war going on
inaugurated by US imperialism under the guise of the 'war on terror'.
This is the fundamental which the globalist 'anti-war' Labourites in
drag avoid.
Hence defence of Iran, China, Syria, Burma is key. Exposing the lies
and machinations of the 'new world order' is the issue thats why a
'truth movement' developed out of the anti-war movement. The anti-war
movement is dead. It repeats the same sterile mantras.
vngelis