On May 18, 12:34=A0pm, Vngelis <meberr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On May 18, 12:48 pm, Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On 2008-05-17 20:27 +0100, Vngelis allegedly wrote:
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> > > There is an economic war with China over the value of the Renmimbi
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> > > Burma has been under sanctions.
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> > > These are the politics which lead to conflict.
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> > > Walters and the state caps all argue =A0there is no conflict as
> > > capitalism is triumphant everywhere hence they dismiss weather war
> > > weaponry as ...conspiratorial
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> > I don't think they've got the technical means to create such a cyclone
> > artificially, either. I'd very much agree, however, that IF they had
> > them, they'd certainly use them.
> > But how im****tant would such weapons be? Not all that, in my view.
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> > they've killed millions of Iraqis with the very much conventional
> > weapons called "diplomacy" and "economic sanctions".
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> I think you may have misunderstood what I said.
> They may be able to artificially excarcabate a situation.
> It is noted already that the Chinese are able to create rain clouds.
> If a cyclone is developing and with the use of weaponry they can
> excarcabate it artificially they aren't necessarily 'creating' weather
> but making it worse.
You know, when you sound rational like this and make a logical
argument as you do above, you are absolutely no fun at all...
> Do you belive Katrina as it evolved was a man made disaster or as
> Spike Lee has commented the city was flooded by blowing up the defence
> walls surrounding it?
A very natural disaster *predicted* for decades...Lee, a great film
maker, has no evidence of this which is why no Katrina refugee
organization makes this claim anymore. It's also a destraction,
politically, from the real politcial tasks of addressing the needs of
the refugees and how the capitalists want to rebuild NOLA.
> For I have noticed the Americans try and test their weapon
> manipulation equipment on themselves first then they globalise it.
Ah...he's baackkk! Good. So, you 'notice' this when you haven't even
offered any evidence they've ever done it? They've tried all sorts of
things agains the Cuban workers state for decades...including cloud
seeding. All to no avail. Again, read what the Cubans themselves say.
> Katrina inaugurated weather wars, climate change in our faces and
> climate change refugees. We are now going into new realms.
> Environmental intervention as an evolution of humanitarian
> intervention. Imperiliasm rebranding itself...
Sure it does. You know, the weather system develops east of the
Carribean. It's movement is determined by low and high pressure
systems on either side of the storm, with the storm following the
relatively lower weather system that precedes it (relative to the
higher pressure system behind it, pu****ng it). So, therefore, it would
take a huge amount of energy and a method of delivering it (as opposed
to the puny little HAARP system of 3 MWs) in a sustained way to a
specific area of atmosphere with natural receptors to absorb the
energy to lower the barametric pressure...well you get the point. The
fact that Kratrina was NOT the biggest hurricane says something. That
it followed historcial paths of a hurricane to the west then north,
that this was disaster waiting to happen by capitalist indifference
makes you move away from socialism toward conspiratalism, a petty-
bourgois deviation akin to space bats and faked moon landings (I do
admit you never said the moon landings were faked, rather that the
Russians got there first, even though they failed to make a big deal
about it, or note it, or even wink a few times...).
David
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