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Re: HAARP: High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program

by Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 19, 2008 at 08:21 AM

On 2008-05-19 01:52 +0100, stephen allegedly wrote:
> On May 18, 3:58 pm, dusty <trackdu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> But I was disgusted by your clear inference that Vngelis was mentally
>> sick - and that was my way of attempting to discredit such THEORY on
>> the matter that you expounded. You cannot deny that the horrific cycle
>> of treatments, all justified by reference to a body of theory much of
>> it still in practice today is on the record. I don't like the use of -
>> what I consider - a dubious science to provide an answer for
>> essentially political questions - particularly, but not exclusively,
>> when the victim is Vngelis.
> 
> I understand your reservation. It is the reason I delayed
> "psychologizing" this argument for as long as I did. What moved me to
> make the point was, first, that I had an insight, or what I consider
> such, into relation****p between conspirativism and the left on the one
> hand and homo***uality and the left on the other. Both conspirativism
> and homo***ual activism have had debilitating effects on left-wing
> politics, and it occurred to me that the reason is they are each
> associated with paranoia. 

We'll get back to that later.

> Second, what moved me, is that vngelis was
> calling the anti-conspirativists crazy. Not in the same way, granted.
> vngelis was not imputing a clinical syndrome. vngelis was alleging,
> instead, brainwa****ng by the new world order. But effectively, it's
> the same thing. At some point, intellectual honesty required saying
> that if I seemed crazy to vngelis, it was because vngelis is crazy.

Vngelis says Stephen is crazy. As a consequence, "intellectual honesty" 
requires Stephen to say: "No I'm not! You are!".

Spot on, Chris!


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HAARP: High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program
nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-16 09:50:32 
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stephen <srdiamond@[EM  2008-05-16 16:58:35 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-17 06:12:04 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-16 17:02:24 
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stephen <srdiamond@[EM  2008-05-16 17:43:22 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-17 05:22:10 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-18 13:35:43 
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Tom Cod <tcod@[EMAIL P  2008-05-17 10:45:59 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-17 11:45:41 
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Einde O'Callaghan <ein  2008-05-18 00:40:36 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-18 13:39:30 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-18 14:17:52 
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"Tom Checksmix"  2008-05-18 15:09:36 
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Einde O'Callaghan <ein  2008-05-18 23:51:38 
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"Tom Checksmix"  2008-05-18 15:56:50 
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"Tom Checksmix"  2008-05-18 16:20:10 
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"Tom Checksmix"  2008-05-18 16:46:02 
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"Tom Checksmix"  2008-05-18 16:53:28 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-18 13:39:48 
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"Tom Checksmix"  2008-05-18 16:51:50 
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"Tom Checksmix"  2008-05-18 16:57:46 
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"Tom Checksmix"  2008-05-18 17:39:22 
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"Tom Checksmix"  2008-05-18 17:43:14 
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"Tom Checksmix"  2008-05-18 17:47:33 
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stephen <srdiamond@[EM  2008-05-18 15:41:33 
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dusty <trackdusty@[EMA  2008-05-18 15:58:55 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-19 02:15:30 
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stephen <srdiamond@[EM  2008-05-18 16:52:00 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-19 08:21:50 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-19 23:57:53 
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