Re: The 'formalising' of dialectics.

"John Holmes" <jholmes@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Jim F. wrote:
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>> The British biologist J.B.S. Haldane claimed that much
>> of his research was inspired by dialectical materialism.
>> See Helena Sheehan's discussion of this at:
>> http://webpages.dcu.ie/~sheehanh/haldane.htm
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> Wasn't Haldane an orthodox Stalinist?

Very much so for a long time, at least up
to the time that he left the CPGB over
Lysenkoism and other matters.

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> -jh-
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>> "John Holmes" <jholmes@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008, scottpsolomon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> please give an example of how a study of the dialectical method led to
>>> a practice that led to a great scientific discovery in the past 50
>>> years.
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>> That would be Stephen Jay Gould, I do believe.
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>>> please quote the great scientist who attributed his discovery to his
>>> understanding of the dialectical method
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>> That would be the early book of his, forget which one, where he talked
>> about Engels's "Dialectic of Nature" and how he was into it and how it
>> related to his own work.
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>> He didn't of course rant about how his discovery was *because* of his
>> mastery of The Dialectic, not being a Healyite.
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>> -jh-
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>>> On Jul 1, 6:23 pm, stephen <srdiam...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> On Jul 1, 2:28 pm, scottpsolo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> These are very, very, very, profoundly, profoundly, profoundly and
>>>>> very profound contributions. Up until now, Trotskyism has been a
>>>>> failure because more time hasn't been spent understanding
Dialectics.
>>>>> Nobody who has made a real scientific contribution in the last fifty
>>>>> years
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>>>> Not actually true, and I'm surprise you would think it. Even if
>>>> dialectics were utterly worthless, some scientists surely would
>>>> embrace the dialectical method, as some scientists have always
>>>> gravitated to every manner of superstition.
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>>>> srd
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>>>> or who has built a successful political party gives a **** about
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>>>>> Dialectics, but that doesn't mean a profoundly profoundly profound
>>>>> deeply deep study of this im****tant area of study would have
propelled
>>>>> humanity much farther in every area of human endeavor if Dialects
had
>>>>> been the first order of business before any other sort of
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