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Re: The Lambertiste Perspective on the History of the 4th

by dave.walters@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 23, 2008 at 05:58 AM

On Jul 23, 2:35 am, stephen <srdiam...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> This Socialist Organizer do***ent contains more on the Lambertiste
> view of the 1960s. I infer they do not believe the SWP decisively
> degenerated until the middle 1970s. It was the position of the IC
> circe 1971 as I recalll, that many healthy elements still remained in
> the SWP. It seems that the Lambertistes, like Healy and Wohlforth,
> viewed the SWP as closer to Trotskyism than the Mandelites.

I think it's the other way around, sort of.

They completely opposed the 1963 reunification and essentially aligned
with Healy on the im****tant points except the class nature of Cuba.

They then pretty much ignored the SWP until the mid-1970s when their
positions on Angola, ****tugal and the USFI generaly became congruent
with the SWP. At that point discussions were opened...circa 1975. Both
parties had been growing and the SWP/LTF tried to manouver for a
fusion between the OCI's OCRFI and the USec.

The 800 lbs gorilla in the room was Moreno, who had pretty much
dominated L. American Trotskyism in this period and had been a key
ally in the USFI with the SWP. By 1977 they had pretty much
established their Bolshevik Faction after the SWP (mistakingly IMO)
dissolved the LTF. The Nicaraguan revolution intervened, the BF and
the OCRFI found themselves MORE congruent with each other than either
had been with the SWP and the honeymoon was over.

IMO, Lambert should of followed Moreno into the USFI in 1965. Big
mistake. Oh well.

David.
David
 




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stephen <srdiamond@[EM  2008-07-18 23:50:09 
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ross <nobody@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-21 02:09:13 
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Big Fat Fuck <bigfatph  2008-07-21 15:12:24 
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Einde O'Callaghan <ein  2008-07-22 09:10:51 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-07-22 09:49:41 
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stephen <srdiamond@[EM  2008-07-22 13:22:25 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-07-22 15:39:54 
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stephen <srdiamond@[EM  2008-07-22 15:42:13 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-07-22 16:19:52 
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stephen <srdiamond@[EM  2008-07-22 16:23:47 
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ross <nobody@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-23 01:11:22 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-07-22 16:36:15 
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stephen <srdiamond@[EM  2008-07-22 23:35:28 
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dave.walters@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-23 05:58:08 
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stephen <srdiamond@[EM  2008-07-23 10:29:30 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-07-23 10:32:03 
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stephen <srdiamond@[EM  2008-07-23 10:45:27 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-07-23 10:45:30 
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Big Fat Fuck <bigfatph  2008-07-23 14:48:27 
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dave.walters@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-24 07:28:36 
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dave.walters@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-24 07:30:51 
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John Holmes <jholmes@[  2008-07-24 14:56:13 
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