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On Jul 23, 2:09 pm, stephen <srdiam...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Jul 22, 6:10 pm, nada <dwalters...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > Neither had much to do or effect up immigrations from a legal stand
> > point, but both encourage immigration as they dislocate local
> > economies in favor of profit, which is why the ONLY way to address an
> > influx of immigrants is to fight back against this form of 'forced'
> > emigration when economies collapse. Everything, and anything else, is
> > plain ol' jingoism.
>
> But you give every indication of opposing basing the fight against
> NAFTA explicitly on ending the immigration influx it causes. Resulting
> from those holding positions like yours, workers may oppose NAFTA AND
> oppose excessive immigration, yet see no connection between the two.
> (In your terms, they remain jingos, because they are not given an
> internationalist approach to the immigration question, out of fear
> that raising the question of immigration in itself arouses jingoism
> and offends the open borderism that you equate with defense of
> immigrant workers.

Yes, yes, no, maybe, no.

Yes, any opposition to NAFTA will seek to solidiarize with immigrant
rights. It means rejecting anti-immigrant behavoir by the gov't and
the unions (should that occur). the only internationalist approach is
to veiw all workers as allies not opponents. Putting in coversly,
there IS no fight against NAFTA that includes the "fight against
immigrattion". Doesn't exist outside the Pat Bucahnan and CNN Lou
Dobbs. So you are posting a non-existent juxtiposition of forces.

Secondly, one has to discuss the immigration in exactly the same way
McKinney does. We have to examine the root causes of immigration and
address THAT. If you don't, you are not an internationalist. I was
with McKinney in Mexico where we all got a good education by militant
Mexican trade unionists on this question.

David


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