On 28 Apr, 23:11, abelard <abela...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:26:03 -0700 (PDT), Andy
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> <andrewrichardwainwri...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >What to say if accused of being a "socialist"
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> >When you use the term "socialism", do you meant socialist ideals or
> >socialist practice? Indeed, I am a fan of the former. Jesus, Hermes,
> >Buddha, Mohammed all held ideals which could be deemed "socialist".
> >Brotherhood, equality etc, what's wrong with that?.
> >However, socialist practise is a different matter. The conservative
> >criticism of the lack of self-reliance of socialists is a fair one. My
> >previous post is a criticism of exactly that!
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> >YES, we need more equality!
> >YES, we need more freedom!
> >YES, we need peace!
> >YES, we need an end to poverty!
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> >BUT, Whilst a reasonably competent government can help, it is only US,
> >THE PEOPLE ourselves who can bring this about by our OWN actions and
> >words!
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> maybe you're confusing communalism with socialism/communism.....
>
> socialism....fraternity by force.....
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> read this and try to put your concerns in a more complex
frame....http://www.abelard.org/briefings/citizens_wage.htm
> that could get interesting
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> note also the recent redistribution by bush.....
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Maybe the term "utopian" would be better than "socialist". I would
agree that there is too much state control, and that people depend on
the state to provide rather than using their own resourcefulness.
How many people have been waiting for "someone else" to set them free.
I was one of them :)
PS. included a link to your website on my blog page. Some interesting
ideas....
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