On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:00:26 -0700 (PDT), Andy
<andrewrichardwainwright@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>On 28 Apr, 23:11, abelard <abela...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:26:03 -0700 (PDT), Andy
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>> <andrewrichardwainwri...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >What to say if accused of being a "socialist"
>>
>> >When you use the term "socialism", do you meant socialist ideals or
>> >socialist practice? Indeed, I am a fan of the former. Jesus, Hermes,
>> >Buddha, Mohammed all held ideals which could be deemed "socialist".
>> >Brotherhood, equality etc, what's wrong with that?.
>> >However, socialist practise is a different matter. The conservative
>> >criticism of the lack of self-reliance of socialists is a fair one. My
>> >previous post is a criticism of exactly that!
>>
>> >YES, we need more equality!
>> >YES, we need more freedom!
>> >YES, we need peace!
>> >YES, we need an end to poverty!
>>
>> >BUT, Whilst a reasonably competent government can help, it is only US,
>> >THE PEOPLE ourselves who can bring this about by our OWN actions and
>> >words!
>>
>> maybe you're confusing communalism with socialism/communism.....
>>
>> socialism....fraternity by force.....
>>
>> read this and try to put your concerns in a more complex
frame....http://www.abelard.org/briefings/citizens_wage.htm
>> that could get interesting
>>
>> note also the recent redistribution by bush.....
>Maybe the term "utopian" would be better than "socialist".
yes, i think that is more in accord with your intent...even if the
term can be taken as a bit pollyanna....
there is a lot around on 'utopian communities'....
much of society is as it is because that is what works...but
there is certainly much that can be improved...
>I would
>agree that there is too much state control, and that people depend on
>the state to provide rather than using their own resourcefulness.
>
>How many people have been waiting for "someone else" to set them free.
>I was one of them :)
>
>PS. included a link to your website on my blog page. Some interesting
>ideas....
thank you...
regards
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