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Re: Socialism and Capitalism

by Fred <fred@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 25, 2008 at 06:02 AM

PeterBP wrote:

> Fred <fred@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>> Scarce money systems, plentiful money systems, and no money systems. 
>> Only the scarce money systems reward misbehaviour, (selfishness,
>> legalised
>> cheating, etc.).  The other two are neutral to them I believe.
> 
> What defines these categories?
> 
        Scarce Money:  The money supply limits commerce.  If you have no
money you
can't buy anything unless you borrow someone else's, for instance. 
Capitalism & Communism both use scarce money.  In that sense they are
alike.

        Plentiful Money:  Everyone has the right to issue money all the
time and so
the money supply can expand to sup****t whatever exchange is wanted.  An
example would be the LETSystem.

        No Money:  People give away or share things they want others to
have
without counting the cost.  They may set aside "owner****p" and "property"
as concepts or alternatively they could also barter, or they could live
with a mixture of these systems.  In our society we share things like the
air and the water, because the rich haven't found a way to limit these. 
Examples are scarce today, but there are some native tribes in remote
areas
that have not been caught up in our society who still use such systems. 
They have very little if any, crime and no stress.

>>         Capitalism is *all about* taking money away from others. 
That's
>>         how t
> he
>> game is played.  The more money you get the more power you have.
> 
> Religious banter.
> 
        Sorry but no.  It's quite true.  Capitalism is a free-for-all
battle for
more power and/or money with "scarce money" as the weapon of choice.  The
most aggressive and violent people succeed.  That's why psychopaths do
quite well at it and often rise to the top in industry, the military,
politics, and especially the secret service.

        I'll reply to the rest of your message in another to prevent this
from
being so big that few will read it.

-- 
Peace,
Fred
(Remove FFFf from my email address to reply by email).
 




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