On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 18:32:21 -0700 (PDT), MACK DADDY
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>On Jul 6, 11:33 pm, s****hawk <s****h...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Jul 5, 8:23 pm, beavith <beavi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 20:35:21 -0400, "V for Vendicar"
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>> > <Execute_The_Traitor_In_The_White_Ho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > ><leonard7...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > >> ? "We can't drill our way out of our energy crisis."
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>> > >> Actually, we can.
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>> > > The U.S. has 6% of the worlds oil reserves and consumes 20% of the
oil
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>> > > Hence the U.S. can never drill it's way to oil independence.
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>> > > URAh MMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNN
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>> > > Leonard.
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>> > actually, he's not, as you say, a moron.
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>> > increased energy costs drive demand down. increased supply causes he
>> > supply and demand curves to find an equilibrium at some higher price
>> > and some lower demand. independence is possible.
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>> Independent of what? Foreign oil? But the moment the United States
>> hands owner****p of the oil to the likes of Exxon, BP, Total, and
>> Shell, the oil is just as foreign as any oil from Siberia. Those
>> companies straddle the earth and their markets cover the civilized
>> world. The price they charge for their oil is fixed by the world
>> demand and supply, not the demand and supply in the United States.
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>> The standard oil lease grants the lessor complete owner****p of the oil
>> produced. The oil company drilling on the lease has the right to do
>> whatever that oil company wants. The oil companies will sell the oil
>> back to citizens of the United States at a price set by the world
>> markets. It would be the same as leasing to the state owned Pemex or
>> Aramco. The price will be the same; only the profits would go to a
>> different entity.
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>> > of coure, that'd require the markets to work without being garroted
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>> > the democratic MMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNNs
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>> > what the democrats COULD do would be to squeeze the Fed to raise
>> > interest rates and precipitate the recession they are steering us to
>> > anyway, so that we can wring out the damage that long term cheap
money
>> > did to the underlying economy. at the same time, commodity prices
>> > will fall as the real value of the dollar (against foreign
currencies)
>> > gets stronger.
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>> > the democrats have a great chance to do the right thing. i don't
>> > think its in their constitution. they are
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>> > DDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS....
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>> Standard global free market balderdash: the fallacious belief that the
>> global free market will take care of everything. The problem is that
>> the global market hasn't taken care of anything--except the bank
>> accounts of the large multinational cor****ations and financial
>> institutions. foolish reliance on the free and open global market is
>> what is driving the United States to bankruptcy.
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>> Free market principles work just fine in a closed system where
>> regulations can level the field, prevent monopolies, and punish unfair
>> trade practices. But when a country opens it borders to outside
>> interests that are not constrained by those domestic rules or
>> regulations, that country will soon find its domestic commerce swamped
>> by cheap im****ts and its economy ravaged by ruthless traders.
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>> Cheap labor and the absence of workers' benefits gives the foreigner
>> an advantage. Then domestic companies move to take advantage of the
>> cheap labor in other countries. With the outflow of capital and the
>> loss of revenue producing capital, the country with open borders must
>> soon go broke. That's what's happening to the United States right
>> now. Domestic free enterprise is great--global free enterprise is a
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>I cant stand all this cor****ate fascism that the Republitards are
>shoving down our throats.
Don't see any dems scrambling to do anything about it do you?
The dems have held the majority in the house and senate for the
greater part of the last few decades yet they have never done anything
to address what you're *****ing about.
The last democratic president is the one that signed NAFTA on top of
it all. So both parties are equally culpable.
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