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Re: Energy Myths

by MACK DADDY <pepsivanilla@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 8, 2008 at 05:53 PM

On Jul 7, 7:25=A0pm, Starkiller <NoSpam.SKS_SK...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 18:32:21 -0700 (PDT), MACK DADDY
>
>
>
>
>
> <pepsivani...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >On Jul 6, 11:33=A0pm, s****hawk <s****h...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> On Jul 5, 8:23=A0pm, beavith <beavi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> >> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 20:35:21 -0400, "V for Vendicar"
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> >> > <Execute_The_Traitor_In_The_White_Ho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> >> > ><leonard7...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
> >> > >> ? "We can't drill our way out of our energy crisis."
>
> >> > >> Actually, we can.
>
> >> > > =A0The U.S. has 6% of the worlds oil reserves and consumes 20% of
=
the oil
> >> > >produced.
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> >> > > =A0Hence the U.S. can never drill it's way to oil independence.
>
> >> > > =A0URAh MMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNN
>
> >> > > =A0Leonard.
>
> >> > actually, he's not, as you say, a moron.
>
> >> > increased energy costs drive demand down. =A0increased supply
causes=
 he
> >> > supply and demand curves to find an equilibrium at some higher
price
> >> > and some lower demand. =A0independence is possible.
>
> >> Independent of what? =A0Foreign oil? =A0But the moment the United
Stat=
es
> >> hands owner****p of the oil to the likes of Exxon, BP, Total, and
> >> Shell, the oil is just as foreign as any oil from Siberia. =A0Those
> >> companies straddle the earth and their markets cover the civilized
> >> world. =A0The price they charge for their oil is fixed by the world
> >> demand and supply, not the demand and supply in the United States.
>
> >> The standard oil lease grants the lessor complete owner****p of the
oil
> >> produced. =A0The oil company drilling on the lease has the right to
do
> >> whatever that oil company wants. =A0The oil companies will sell the
oi=
l
> >> back to citizens of the United States at a price set by the world
> >> markets. =A0It would be the same as leasing to the state owned Pemex
o=
r
> >> Aramco. =A0The price will be the same; only the profits would go to a
> >> different entity.
>
> >> > of coure, that'd require the markets to work without being garroted
=
by
> >> > the democratic MMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNNs
=
in
> >> > Congress.
>
> >> > what the democrats COULD do would be to squeeze the Fed to raise
> >> > interest rates and precipitate the recession they are steering us
to
> >> > anyway, so that we can wring out the damage that long term cheap
mon=
ey
> >> > did to the underlying economy. =A0at the same time, commodity
prices
> >> > will fall as the real value of the dollar (against foreign
currencie=
s)
> >> > gets stronger.
>
> >> > the democrats have a great chance to do the right thing. =A0i don't
> >> > think its in their constitution. =A0they are
>
> >> > DDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS....
>
> >> Standard global free market balderdash: the fallacious belief that
the
> >> global free market will take care of everything. =A0The problem is
tha=
t
> >> the global market hasn't taken care of anything--except the bank
> >> accounts of the large multinational cor****ations and financial
> >> institutions. =A0foolish reliance on the free and open global market
i=
s
> >> what is driving the United States to bankruptcy.
>
> >> Free market principles work just fine in a closed system where
> >> regulations can level the field, prevent monopolies, and punish
unfair
> >> trade practices. =A0But when a country opens it borders to outside
> >> interests that are not constrained by those domestic rules or
> >> regulations, that country will soon find its domestic commerce
swamped
> >> by cheap im****ts and its economy ravaged by ruthless traders.
>
> >> Cheap labor and the absence of workers' benefits gives the foreigner
> >> an advantage. =A0Then domestic companies move to take advantage of
the
> >> cheap labor in other countries. =A0With the outflow of capital and
the
> >> loss of revenue producing capital, the country with open borders must
> >> soon go broke. =A0That's what's happening to the United States right
> >> now. =A0Domestic free enterprise is great--global free enterprise is
a
> >> disaster.- Hide quoted text -
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> >> - Show quoted text -
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> >I cant stand all this cor****ate fascism that the Republitards are
> >shoving down our throats.
>
> Don't see any dems scrambling to do anything about it do you?
> The dems have held the majority in the house and senate for the
> greater part of the last few decades yet they have never done anything
> to address what you're *****ing about.
> The last democratic president is the one that signed NAFTA on top of
> it all. =A0So both parties are equally culpable.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

OH I KNOW!  I told Bill Clinton to **** off with NAFTA.
 




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