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Re: Energy Myths

by "Bill Bonde { ''Soylent Diesel is People'')" Jul 9, 2008 at 02:55 AM

Jeffrey Turner wrote:
> 
> Bill Bonde { ''Soylent Diesel is People'') wrote:
> 
> >
> > Scott Erb wrote:
> >
> >>On Jul 4, 4:18 pm, MACK DADDY <pepsivani...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Jul 4, 12:20 pm, Starkiller <NoSpam.SKS_SK...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>
> >>>He didn't say that the United States is sending oil all over the
> >>>world.  What he said is that any oil drilled in the United States
> >>>becomes part of the general world supply of oil because the oil
> >>>companies are multinational, ie. there is no oil company strictly
> >>>operating as an American company.  Try to at least pretend you have a
> >>>brain you wankitty conservative warmongering Republitard!
> >>
> >>The first post in this thread was fantasy.  First, they are assuming
> >>that one can tap all oil anywhere and suddenly increase production to
> >>near peak levels for the US.  Even if that could be done (it probably
> >>can't, and it would be very expensive to try), that would not even
> >>keep up with increases in world demand.
> >
> > Really? Because if it can't keep up, then the price is going to
> > continue to go up until it can. This is the market at work. Stand
> > back.
> 
> There are physical limits.  The market cannot do everything.
> 
I don't claim that the market can do everything. I claim that the
market can allocate resources. Right now there is a huge incentive
for anyone who can to make energy, and for anyone who can to reduce
his use of energy. It isn't a coincidence that that's exactly what
is needed.




> >>At best it could buy us time
> >>to transition to a post-fossil fuel economy.
> >
> > If people were smart, they'd be as gung-ho for nuclear power as
> > people in North Korea, Iran and Saudi Arabia are. But Americans
> > still don't get it.
> 
> We'd have to build hundreds of nuclear reactors, and there isn't enough
> fuel for them.  Nor all the coolant necessary.  And no place to put the
> waste.
> 
This has been explained to you over and over and over again. You
are wrong. There is plenty of fuel. Water is the coolant. And the
waste gets buried in a mountain. End of problem.




> >>Yet while people can
> >>hurl guesses about how much oil is offshore or on shore, they
> >>conveniently ignore that the cost of retrieving much of it is
> >>immense.  Is it really better to throw that much money into sucking
> >>the last bits of oil out of our ground to keep prices from rising
> >>quite so fast (thus keeping demand from dropping quite so fast), only
> >>to find ourselves a few years later with no oil left, and no
> >>alternatives because we spent our money trying to get the last oil
> >>hits?
> >
> > Hello, what would you suggest?
> 
> Major investments in insulation, energy efficiency and renewable
> energy sources.
> 
Kook Alert.



-- 
 "It happens sometimes, people just explode, natural causes." 

-+Alex Cox, "Repo Man"
 




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Energy Myths
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-04 06:47:01 
Re: Energy Myths
"zzbunker@[EMAIL PRO  2008-07-04 07:42:14 
Re: Energy Myths
MACK DADDY <pepsivanil  2008-07-04 13:15:36 
Re: Energy Myths
snakehawk <snakehawk@[  2008-07-04 11:52:14 
Re: Energy Myths
Starkiller <NoSpam.SKS  2008-07-04 14:20:23 
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Last Post <last_post@[  2008-07-04 12:50:27 
Re: Energy Myths
Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-04 17:24:30 
Re: Energy Myths
snakehawk <snakehawk@[  2008-07-04 13:11:09 
Re: Energy Myths
MACK DADDY <pepsivanil  2008-07-04 13:18:15 
Re: Energy Myths
Starkiller <NoSpam.SKS  2008-07-04 16:02:34 
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snakehawk <snakehawk@[  2008-07-04 14:40:28 
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snakehawk <snakehawk@[  2008-07-04 15:51:17 
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"zzbunker@[EMAIL PRO  2008-07-04 20:09:30 
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MACK DADDY <pepsivanil  2008-07-05 00:36:01 
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MACK DADDY <pepsivanil  2008-07-05 00:45:28 
Re: Energy Myths
Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-08 11:48:48 
Re: Energy Myths
Starkiller <NoSpam.SKS  2008-07-08 16:34:08 
Re: Energy Myths
Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-08 20:37:14 
Re: Energy Myths
Starkiller <NoSpam.SKS  2008-07-08 21:54:22 
Re: Energy Myths
Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-09 15:50:19 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-08 20:22:34 
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"Bill Bonde { ''Soyl  2008-07-08 22:31:35 
Re: Energy Myths
Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-08 20:39:57 
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"Bill Bonde { ''Soyl  2008-07-09 02:55:49 
Re: Energy Myths
Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-09 14:48:27 
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"Bill Bonde { ''Soyl  2008-07-09 20:09:32 
Re: Energy Myths
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-09 13:26:26 
Re: Energy Myths
Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-10 19:30:59 
Re: Energy Myths
Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-09 13:44:39 
Re: Energy Myths
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-09 13:45:47 
Re: Energy Myths
Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-09 23:22:40 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-09 13:47:14 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
Steve <stevencanyon@[E  2008-07-09 17:08:11 
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"Bill Bonde { ''Soyl  2008-07-10 00:17:07 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-09 17:13:23 
Re: Energy Myths
Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-09 19:11:42 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-09 19:14:16 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
Steve <stevencanyon@[E  2008-07-10 06:09:31 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-09 19:16:55 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
Steve <stevencanyon@[E  2008-07-10 06:09:31 
Re: Energy Myths
"Bill Bonde { ''Soyl  2008-07-10 04:34:02 
Re: Energy Myths
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-10 00:22:02 
Re: Energy Myths
Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-10 19:51:41 
Re: Energy Myths
Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-10 05:11:20 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-10 05:12:20 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
Steve <stevencanyon@[E  2008-07-10 12:52:24 
Re: Energy Myths
"Bill Bonde { ''Soyl  2008-07-10 17:43:48 
Re: Energy Myths
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-10 18:20:49 
Re: Energy Myths
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-10 18:35:32 
Re: Energy Myths
Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-10 23:11:24 
Re: Energy Myths
Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-10 18:44:55 
Re: Energy Myths
Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-10 18:45:57 
Re: Energy Myths
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-10 19:07:48 
Re: Energy Myths
"Bill Bonde { ''Soyl  2008-07-11 03:38:52 
Re: Energy Myths
Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-04 16:35:44 
Re: Energy Myths
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-05 07:06:47 
Re: Energy Myths
"V for Vendicar"  2008-07-04 20:35:21 
Re: Energy Myths
beavith <beavith1@[EMA  2008-07-05 23:23:16 
Re: Energy Myths
snakehawk <snakehawk@[  2008-07-06 23:33:41 
Re: Energy Myths
Last Post <last_post@[  2008-07-07 16:38:21 
Re: Energy Myths
MACK DADDY <pepsivanil  2008-07-07 18:32:21 
Re: Energy Myths
Starkiller <NoSpam.SKS  2008-07-07 21:25:35 
Re: Energy Myths
"Bill Bonde { ''Soyl  2008-07-08 22:33:20 
Re: Energy Myths
Starkiller <NoSpam.SKS  2008-07-08 16:58:09 
Re: Energy Myths
"Bill Bonde { ''Soyl  2008-07-08 23:34:16 
Re: Energy Myths
Starkiller <NoSpam.SKS  2008-07-08 18:24:09 
Re: Energy Myths
MACK DADDY <pepsivanil  2008-07-08 17:53:50 

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