On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:37:14 -0400, Jeffrey Turner
<jturner@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>Starkiller wrote:
>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:48:48 -0700 (PDT), Scott Erb
>> <scotterb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>On Jul 4, 4:18 pm, MACK DADDY <pepsivani...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Jul 4, 12:20 pm, Starkiller <NoSpam.SKS_SK...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>
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>>>>He didn't say that the United States is sending oil all over the
>>>>world. What he said is that any oil drilled in the United States
>>>>becomes part of the general world supply of oil because the oil
>>>>companies are multinational, ie. there is no oil company strictly
>>>>operating as an American company. Try to at least pretend you have a
>>>>brain you wankitty conservative warmongering Republitard!
>>>
>>>The first post in this thread was fantasy. First, they are assuming
>>>that one can tap all oil anywhere and suddenly increase production to
>>>near peak levels for the US. Even if that could be done (it probably
>>>can't, and it would be very expensive to try), that would not even
>>>keep up with increases in world demand. At best it could buy us time
>>>to transition to a post-fossil fuel economy. Yet while people can
>>>hurl guesses about how much oil is offshore or on shore, they
>>>conveniently ignore that the cost of retrieving much of it is
>>>immense. Is it really better to throw that much money into sucking
>>>the last bits of oil out of our ground to keep prices from rising
>>>quite so fast (thus keeping demand from dropping quite so fast), only
>>>to find ourselves a few years later with no oil left, and no
>>>alternatives because we spent our money trying to get the last oil
>>>hits?
>>>http://scotterb.wordpress.com
>>
>> According to Obama it will take over 20 years to relieve the US of
>> foreign oil dependency by 35%.
>> That's how long they are projecting it to take for all of the
>> alternatives to begin to get production to a decent level and a firm
>> foothold in the market.
>> And you're saying that we should horde whatever oil we may have until
>> then or longer.
>> Fine then. Wait for the alternatives to become available and
>> affordable and shut the **** up about it and do without for the next
>> few years until that happens.
>
>It's not like no one saw this coming. You've been playing the
>grasshopper of the old fable and now you're *****ing. Americans
>started living in complete denial with the election of Reagan.
>
>--Jeff
On the contrary. I don't have to pay for gasoline. So it's not
taking as big of a chunk from me as it is most.
YOU are the ones that all the sudden started screaming and demanding
that someone, other than yourselves of course, **** you a fast
inexpensive alternative to gas right goddamn now.
Same ****ing way you all pissed about a cure for AIDS. Government
didn't **** you a remedy the instant anyone isolated it and you all
*****ed and moaned and claimed some kind of dumbassed anti gay
conspiracy. Of course once a democrat was in the whitehouse those
cries got really silent. Now you do the same thing regarding gasoline.
Except this time you want only remedies that suit your agendas and
demand that everyone else just do without in the meantime.
And as stated in another post. Democrats have done exactly jack ****
in regards to energy even when they had the whitehouse, senate and
house. Not to mention liberals are no more conservation minded when
it comes to fuel than anyone else. I live in a city full of wealthy
democrat voting libs and there are a ****load of those evil SUVs in
their driveways.
Ya'll have been railing for higher gasoline prices well now you have
them.
You want all of the oil in the US to be kept safely in the ground
forever and you damn near have that.
You want a green only alternative to gasoline, well that takes time.
Roughly 22 years according to your "experts".
So have it your way and make it green or nothing and shut the **** up
about the resulting economy and hard****ps placed upon most of the
general public. Plain and simple. It's what you want isn't it?
'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is
big enough to take away everything you have.'


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