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Re: Energy Myths

by "Bill Bonde { ''Soylent Diesel is People'')" Jul 10, 2008 at 12:17 AM

Scott Erb wrote:
> 
> On Jul 8, 9:55 pm, "Bill Bonde { ''Soylent Diesel is People'')"
> <tributyltinpa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > Jeffrey Turner wrote:
> 
> > > We'd have to build hundreds of nuclear reactors, and there isn't
enough
> > > fuel for them.  Nor all the coolant necessary.  And no place to put
the
> > > waste.
> >
> > This has been explained to you over and over and over again. You
> > are wrong. There is plenty of fuel. Water is the coolant. And the
> > waste gets buried in a mountain. End of problem.
> 
> You're contradicting the literature out there on nuclear energy and
> uranium.  You need to back up your claim or else there is no reason
> for Jeffrey or anyone else to accept it.
>
You don't say what the claim is that are taking issue with. The
last time we discussed nuclear power, I suggested your read
"Megawatts and Megatons: A Turning Point in the Nuclear Age?". 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0375403949/ref=sib_dp_srch_pop?v=search-inside&keywords=thorium&go.x=8&go.y=9&go=Go!
#begin quote
..  	on Page 151:
"... all the more so, since it may be possible to adopt a nuclear
chain reaction based on thorium rather than uranium, which would
avoid the production of most of the long-lived heavy metals under
operating conditions that promise ..."
4. 	on Page 154:
"... The Rubbia system is to burn thorium, whose terrestrial
reserves are three times more abundant than those of uranium. ..."
5. 	on Page 155:
"... A Glimpse o f the Future o f Nuclear Power breeder with the
thorium-232/uranium-233 cycle than with the uranium-238/
plutonium-239 approach. There are barely enough neutrons liberated
per fission in uranium-233 to use one ..."
6. 	on Page 157:
"... When thorium is added as fertile material, so that the fissile
uranium-233 constitutes only about io% of the core and thorium 9o%,
...."
7. 	on Page 159:
"... the radioactivity of the waste is less than that of coal ash
(coal always contains a bit of uranium and thorium). ..."
8. 	on Page 162:
"... a light-water reactor. Besides, there is no need to separate
the fissionable material (that is, the uranium -233) from the
thorium; the heavy elements can be kept together. ..."
9. 	on Page 164:
"... This might be uranium-233 plus thorium; or plutonium -239 plus
uranium-238 could maintain criticality without using the
accelerator. One could consider mixed-oxide fuel of plutonium and
...."
10. 	on Page 165:
"... with fuel for only ten years. The solution commonly considered
would be "breeding," using as fuel either uranium-238 or natural
thorium, thorium-232. But it is im****tant to realize that, in
general, resources far exceed the quoted "reserves. ..."
#end quote

-- 
 "It happens sometimes, people just explode, natural causes." 

-+Alex Cox, "Repo Man"
 




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Energy Myths
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-04 06:47:01 
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"zzbunker@[EMAIL PRO  2008-07-04 07:42:14 
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MACK DADDY <pepsivanil  2008-07-04 13:15:36 
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snakehawk <snakehawk@[  2008-07-04 11:52:14 
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Starkiller <NoSpam.SKS  2008-07-04 14:20:23 
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Last Post <last_post@[  2008-07-04 12:50:27 
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Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-04 17:24:30 
Re: Energy Myths
snakehawk <snakehawk@[  2008-07-04 13:11:09 
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MACK DADDY <pepsivanil  2008-07-04 13:18:15 
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Starkiller <NoSpam.SKS  2008-07-04 16:02:34 
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snakehawk <snakehawk@[  2008-07-04 14:40:28 
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snakehawk <snakehawk@[  2008-07-04 15:51:17 
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"zzbunker@[EMAIL PRO  2008-07-04 20:09:30 
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MACK DADDY <pepsivanil  2008-07-05 00:36:01 
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MACK DADDY <pepsivanil  2008-07-05 00:45:28 
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Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-08 11:48:48 
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Starkiller <NoSpam.SKS  2008-07-08 16:34:08 
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Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-08 20:37:14 
Re: Energy Myths
Starkiller <NoSpam.SKS  2008-07-08 21:54:22 
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Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-09 15:50:19 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-08 20:22:34 
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"Bill Bonde { ''Soyl  2008-07-08 22:31:35 
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Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-08 20:39:57 
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"Bill Bonde { ''Soyl  2008-07-09 02:55:49 
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Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-09 14:48:27 
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"Bill Bonde { ''Soyl  2008-07-09 20:09:32 
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"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-09 13:26:26 
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Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-10 19:30:59 
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Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-09 13:44:39 
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"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-09 13:45:47 
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Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-09 23:22:40 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-09 13:47:14 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
Steve <stevencanyon@[E  2008-07-09 17:08:11 
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"Bill Bonde { ''Soyl  2008-07-10 00:17:07 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-09 17:13:23 
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Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-09 19:11:42 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-09 19:14:16 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
Steve <stevencanyon@[E  2008-07-10 06:09:31 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-09 19:16:55 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
Steve <stevencanyon@[E  2008-07-10 06:09:31 
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"Bill Bonde { ''Soyl  2008-07-10 04:34:02 
Re: Energy Myths
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-10 00:22:02 
Re: Energy Myths
Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-10 19:51:41 
Re: Energy Myths
Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-10 05:11:20 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-10 05:12:20 
Re: Energy Myths~~~ PING Scott Erb
Steve <stevencanyon@[E  2008-07-10 12:52:24 
Re: Energy Myths
"Bill Bonde { ''Soyl  2008-07-10 17:43:48 
Re: Energy Myths
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-10 18:20:49 
Re: Energy Myths
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-10 18:35:32 
Re: Energy Myths
Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-10 23:11:24 
Re: Energy Myths
Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-10 18:44:55 
Re: Energy Myths
Scott Erb <scotterb@[E  2008-07-10 18:45:57 
Re: Energy Myths
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-10 19:07:48 
Re: Energy Myths
"Bill Bonde { ''Soyl  2008-07-11 03:38:52 
Re: Energy Myths
Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-07-04 16:35:44 
Re: Energy Myths
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-05 07:06:47 
Re: Energy Myths
"V for Vendicar"  2008-07-04 20:35:21 
Re: Energy Myths
beavith <beavith1@[EMA  2008-07-05 23:23:16 
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snakehawk <snakehawk@[  2008-07-06 23:33:41 
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Last Post <last_post@[  2008-07-07 16:38:21 
Re: Energy Myths
MACK DADDY <pepsivanil  2008-07-07 18:32:21 
Re: Energy Myths
Starkiller <NoSpam.SKS  2008-07-07 21:25:35 
Re: Energy Myths
"Bill Bonde { ''Soyl  2008-07-08 22:33:20 
Re: Energy Myths
Starkiller <NoSpam.SKS  2008-07-08 16:58:09 
Re: Energy Myths
"Bill Bonde { ''Soyl  2008-07-08 23:34:16 
Re: Energy Myths
Starkiller <NoSpam.SKS  2008-07-08 18:24:09 
Re: Energy Myths
MACK DADDY <pepsivanil  2008-07-08 17:53:50 

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