Re: Energy Myths

On Jul 10, 7:30=A0pm, Jeffrey Turner <jtur...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> leonard7...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> > On Jul 9, 2:48 pm, Jeffrey Turner <jtur...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> >>Bill Bonde { ''Soylent Diesel is People'') wrote:
>
> >>>I don't claim that the market can do everything. I claim that the
> >>>market can allocate resources. Right now there is a huge incentive
> >>>for anyone who can to make energy,
>
> >>Unless they think the price will go up further. =A0There's about a
mont=
h
> >>and a half until the Olympics are over and the Chinese factories can
> >>revert to burning coal.
>
> >>>and for anyone who can to reduce
> >>>his use of energy. It isn't a coincidence that that's exactly what
> >>>is needed.
>
> > =95=95 There is very little wiggle room for energy
> > =A0 =A0 conservation. ie the United States alone would have
> > =A0 =A0 to make 200 million swingaway manual can openers
> > =A0 =A0 to replace the electric ones in every household. How
> > =A0 =A0 much energy will that use and set off against power
> > =A0 =A0 savings in the households.
>
> I don't think can openers are a major use of energy.

=95=95=A0ROFLMAO
   My my-- jeffy poo don't think. Whatta surprise.
   Making can openers IS a major use of energy
   but energy conservation would require the
   elimination of electic householod appliances.
>
> >>What is needed is a plan for transitioning away from fossil fuels.
> >>The market will not provide that.
>
> > =95=95 "Fossil fuels" is a misnomer. Coal and petroleum are
> > =A0 =A0 inorganic substances created deep in the hot
> > =A0 =A0 Biosphere and moved into earth's crust by tectonic
> > =A0 =A0 activity. They are both the ultimate in renewable
> > =A0 =A0 =A0reources
>
> You're a moron.

=95=95=A0Those who would call others moron, need only to
     look in the mirror to see a real one
>
> >>>>>>At best it could buy us time
> >>>>>>to transition to a post-fossil fuel economy.

=95=95=A0Once again what idiots like you call "fossil fuel" isn't.

> > =95=95 not going to happen