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Re: Immigration talks rouse hate

by "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 7, 2008 at 12:14 AM

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:bcHzj.12763$v47.6113@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Based on ZeD's comments, and his views are prevelant (your willingness
> to accommodate large numbers of new legal immigrants while calling for
> all those here illegally to leave is rare), I think you are wrong.
> The issue, at its heart is about legal immigration levels.
>
>

I'm not here to accomodate anybody.

I'm ONLY saying that this is not a hate issue, it's solely an illegal 
immigration issue. The problem isn't immigrants, the problem is illegal 
immigrants.

To illustrate the point, I've laid out some ideas as to why the illegal 
immigrants come here. Some of those reasons are the magnet programs we
have 
in place, the broken system of approving visa applications, and of course 
the ****ous border.

I don't care who comes here, I just want them to form a line and wait 
patiently until they get to the front.

We have dozens of magnets that tempt people to jump out of line and cut to

the front. This must be fixed. We have a broken quota system that does not

meet the needs of process that it is supposed tot sup****t, so people jump 
out of line and cut to the front. This must be fixed. And, we have a
****ous 
border that can not hold back the hordes of people that jump out of line
and 
cut to the front.. This must be fixed.

Think of the three-legged stool, and attempt to fix it by repairing only
one 
of the legs. The stool is still too wobbly to be useful. Fix two legs.
Still 
no good. Fix all three legs and the stool works again.

So, the issue is not immigrants per se, the issue is illegal immigrants 
precisely. It is not hateful to regain control of one's borders. That is
my 
only point. If you could read, or bothered to read, you would know that. I

have not said a single thing that even approaches accomodating anybody.

For a guy that attaches "loon" to a name, you sure are dumb. Maybe you 
should reconsider your approach ...
 




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Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jim E" <YD6  2008-03-03 20:43:05 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-04 07:33:58 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"acmeinc" <x  2008-03-04 14:57:47 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-04 10:52:54 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-04 21:05:54 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Governor Swill <govern  2008-03-04 13:20:08 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-04 21:26:03 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Governor Swill <govern  2008-03-05 04:20:41 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-05 16:24:44 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-05 08:50:33 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-05 17:00:55 
Zed partially educated in "differences".........
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-05 17:47:51 
Re: Zed partially educated in "differences".........
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-06 03:17:10 
Re: Zed partially educated in "differences".........
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-06 08:28:50 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-04 17:53:03 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-04 21:11:05 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-04 21:22:11 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-05 00:26:44 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-05 08:44:50 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-05 16:44:26 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-05 17:36:24 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-06 03:20:47 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-06 08:32:41 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-06 15:47:19 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Governor Swill <govern  2008-03-06 13:45:56 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-06 14:23:09 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Governor Swill <govern  2008-03-06 13:43:49 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-05 17:32:38 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-05 01:00:16 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-05 04:31:18 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-05 15:25:27 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-05 16:28:41 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-05 16:40:16 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-05 17:35:02 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-05 23:57:44 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-06 00:27:33 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-06 00:59:53 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-06 03:39:25 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-06 23:41:45 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-06 19:36:06 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-07 02:55:18 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-07 08:50:30 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-05 08:48:11 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-05 16:43:42 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-05 17:35:46 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-05 16:56:59 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-05 08:43:27 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-05 16:40:45 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-05 00:45:21 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-05 04:22:45 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-05 15:32:27 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-05 16:36:23 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-05 16:50:40 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-05 17:37:33 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-05 21:10:13 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-06 00:10:02 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-06 00:42:00 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-06 00:49:11 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-06 08:35:14 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-06 15:48:29 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-07 00:14:59 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-07 00:17:54 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-07 02:22:27 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-07 02:56:34 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-07 08:47:56 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Josh Rosenbluth <jrose  2008-03-06 19:19:09 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-07 02:27:29 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Josh Rosenbluth <jrose  2008-03-06 21:54:09 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-07 16:36:27 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-07 17:44:59 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-08 00:15:16 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Josh Rosenbluth <jrose  2008-03-07 19:24:18 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-08 01:08:41 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Josh Rosenbluth <jrose  2008-03-07 20:23:48 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-08 03:08:04 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Josh Rosenbluth <jrose  2008-03-07 22:24:47 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-08 04:19:05 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Josh Rosenbluth <jrose  2008-03-07 23:30:02 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-08 05:09:32 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-08 16:50:06 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-08 17:06:15 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-08 17:48:01 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-08 18:13:22 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-08 18:36:48 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-08 12:57:42 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Baron Scarpia"  2008-03-08 20:22:48 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-08 20:41:56 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-09 07:34:13 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-08 23:06:52 
"Yup, a bleeding heart pile of shit"---ZED Speaks for Baron, Jef
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-09 07:36:06 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-09 07:29:05 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-08 16:40:18 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-08 16:44:28 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-08 16:56:58 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-08 18:02:19 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Josh Rosenbluth <jrose  2008-03-08 13:05:14 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-08 12:50:19 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Josh Rosenbluth <jrose  2008-03-08 12:21:27 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-08 17:38:45 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-08 18:21:58 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-08 12:51:42 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-08 12:49:46 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-08 20:45:04 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-08 23:08:10 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate and ZEDLED hate of truth
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-09 07:26:54 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-09 07:25:39 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-08 09:22:07 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-08 09:19:06 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-08 16:53:30 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate and Stupid responses like JEFFY
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-08 12:44:27 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate and Stupid responses like JEFFY
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-08 20:50:31 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate and Stupid responses like JEFFY
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-08 23:17:18 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate and Stupid responses like JEFFY
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-09 07:20:08 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate and Stupid responses like JEFFY
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-09 04:06:12 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate and Stupid responses like JEFFY
Governor Swill <govern  2008-03-09 04:14:11 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate and Stupid responses like JEFFY
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-09 07:23:30 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate and Stupid responses like JEFFY
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-09 07:19:18 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-08 13:07:26 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-08 01:27:35 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Josh Rosenbluth <jrose  2008-03-07 20:58:05 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-08 03:55:56 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Josh Rosenbluth <jrose  2008-03-07 23:22:41 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-08 04:56:50 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Josh Rosenbluth <jrose  2008-03-08 09:36:46 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-08 16:42:46 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-08 09:23:38 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-08 00:46:37 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-08 09:15:31 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-06 19:41:29 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-07 02:21:52 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-06 19:38:26 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-07 02:59:00 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-07 08:52:04 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-07 16:43:32 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Governor Swill <govern  2008-03-05 04:21:53 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-05 16:25:40 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-05 08:42:18 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-05 16:38:00 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-05 16:54:09 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-05 17:39:22 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"MasterChief" &  2008-03-07 18:55:56 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Baron Scarpia"  2008-03-08 03:55:36 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-08 04:10:02 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-08 09:24:47 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Baron Scarpia"  2008-03-08 17:54:52 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-08 18:24:55 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-08 12:48:00 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-03-08 18:40:58 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-08 13:12:26 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-08 12:47:03 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
"Baron Scarpia"  2008-03-08 20:27:14 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-09 07:36:40 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-08 09:11:55 
Re: Immigration talks rouse hate
ZeD <zed@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-08 04:28:43 

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