Re: GUNS for PROTECTION? SAFETY? SCALIA'S "Rationale" is LAUGHABLE!

"RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > "Scout" <me4guns@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > Not all that simple. Do you really want all those drug users on the
> >> > street?
> >>
> >> Sure. Why not? I don't give a damn if some idiot wants to smoke a
> >> joint in his living room.
> >> Why should you?
> >
> > Because after he smokes that joint, he may get in his car and run down
> > a kid....
>
> Damn, that sounds just like "...if he buys a gun he will end up killing
> his wife and family...."

No, it sounds like Don't mix guns and alcohol....


>
> > Because that joint makes him lethargic, and not productive the next
> > few days...because that joint, statistically, will lead to harder
> > drugs...
>
> Like milk does?  Statistically, milk may lead to harder drugs.  After
> all, everyone who does those drugs started out on milk.

Oh please...

>
> > Or that crack that he smokes..how long before he is stealing from the
> > neighbors???
>
> Why is the penalty for crack and cocaine so different when the only
> difference is baking soda and some heat?
>
> > Or that heroin...same thing....
>
> Which is more addictive.....heroin or nicotine?

Heroin, then caffine then nicotine....

>
> >> >What non-violent offenses?
> >>
> >> Shoplifting, writting bad checks, even minor burglary.
> >
> > Shoplifting isn't minor.
>
> Most of the instances are.  Some get to be a lot of money, others cost a
> lot of money simply through volume.
>
> I have seen shop lifters attempt to steal
> > 10K in merchandise...thats High level...
> > Bad checks to...Why should someone not pay for what they are supposed
> > to pay for?
> > Nothing about burglary is minor.  It is violent by nature to BREAK
> > INTO someone elses home...
>
> Yes, but violent crimes are those against other people not property.

But violence is there....I did not specify Violent Crime, did I?
Nope...

>
> >> > Are you saying we should abolish
> >> > all laws for non-violent crimes?
> >>
> >> For some of them, I think we should. For others, we can impose
> >> alternative punishments.
> >
> > I say stocks like the old days....
> > Right in front of the court house....
>
> You would have felt right at home in Salem.

Uhm, stocks were used in the US, and most of the world for centuries for
what you call "minor crime".
Salem was about KILLING


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> >> > Things could get pretty well out of
> >> > hand that way.
> >>
> >> And you don't think they are now?
> >>
> >> At least the worst and real offenders would be in jail.
> >
> > And those up and comming ones would be on the streets in your world...
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> > As it is, most non-violent criminals do get out way
> >> > too early than they should just so the prisons don't get too over
> >> > crowded. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't start releasing
> >> > violent criminals too early for the same reason. Tell me what is a
> >> > minor non-violent crime that puts people in prison?
> >>
> >> Possession of illegal drugs. 5 years.
> >>
> >> Now do you really give a damn if some college kid is caught with a
> >> joint
> > in
> >> his pocket, or would you rather keep that rapist in jail instead?
> >
> > Yes, cause if he smokes dope when desgning the bidge that will be
> > built, and over looks something that makes it fail and kill people,
> > it's a problem...
> >
> >
> > The rapist should be castrated in public...
> > and left to bleed to death
> >
> >>
> >> >I don't recall
> >> > ever hearing about those kinds of crimes that give prison sentences
> >> > for.
> >>
> >> Haven't been following the "War on Drugs" then have you?
> >
> > People like you undermined it...
>
> Hmmmm, no one ever abuses RICO?

Where did I say the Gov never abuses things?

Are you High?