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Re: Republicans filibuster and block war funding bill

by "Sid9" <sid9@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 16, 2008 at 08:25 PM

"Jack G." <jgranade@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On May 15, 4:09 pm, "Sid9" <s...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> "itsall_bull" <itsall_b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>> > On May 15, 1:48 pm, "Sid9" <s...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> Republicans filibuster and block war funding bill....CNN 3:48PM
>>
>> > And what did the Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi attach to the
>> > bill that forced the Republicans and moderate Democrats to
>> > filibuster the bill?
>>
>> > How typical and repugnant of you to smear the Republicans
>> > without offering a source for your accusations.
>>
>> >http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/15/house.war.funding/index.html
>>
>> > The dems under the flawed leader****p of San Fran ***** were
>> > pulling another fast one to gain a Democrat coup.
>>
>> If they did that they learned from the years
>> and years of Republican control.
>>
>> What goes around comes around.
>>
>> Republicans may be down by more
>> than 70 seats in the next congress.
>>
>> Democrats may be close to a
>> filibuster proof Senate in 2009.
>>
>> Next year bills will actually be passed
>> and start repairing the damage that
>> started with Reagan, continued
>> with HW Bush, stopped by Clinton,
>> and led to catastrophic problems
>> under Bush,Sr incompetent offspring
>
> You must be smoking dope again but no one cares about your hopes and
> wishes and that's all you post.


From the WSJ, Peggy Noonan far right speech writer fir Nixon

DECLARATIONS

By PEGGY NOONAN

Pity Party

May 16, 2008

Big picture, May 2008:

The Democrats aren't the ones falling apart, the Republicans are. The 
Democrats can see daylight ahead. For all their fractious fighting,
they're 
finally resolving their central drama. Hillary Clinton will leave, and 
Barack Obama will deliver a stirring acceptance speech. Then hand-to-hand
in 
the general, where they see their guy triumphing. You see it when you talk

to them: They're busy being born.

The Republicans? Busy dying. The brightest of them see no immediate light.

They're frozen, not like a deer in the headlights but a deer in the 
darkness, his ears stiff at the sound. Crunch. Twig. Hunting party.

The headline Wednesday on Drudge, from Politico, said, "Republicans
Stunned 
by Loss in Mississippi." It was about the eight-point drubbing the
Democrat 
gave the Republican in the special House election. My first thought was:
You 
have to be stupid to be stunned by that. Second thought: Most party
leaders 
in Wa****ngton are stupid - detached, played out, stuck in the wisdom they 
learned when they were coming up, in '78 or '82 or '94. Whatever they 
learned then, they think pertains now. In politics especially, the first 
lesson sticks. For Richard Nixon, everything came back to Alger Hiss.

They are also - Hill leaders, lobbyists, party speakers - successful, 
well-connected, busy and rich. They never guessed, back in '86, how 
government would pay off! They didn't know they'd stay! They came to make
a 
difference and wound up with their butts in the butter. But affluence 
detaches, and in time skews thinking. It gives you the illusion you're
safe, 
and that everyone else is. A party can lose its gut this way.

Many are ambivalent, deep inside, about the decisions made the past seven 
years in the White House. But they've publicly sup****ted it so long they 
think they . . . sup****t it. They get confused. Late at night they toss
and 
turn in the antique mahogany sleigh bed in the carpeted house in McLean
and 
try to remember what it is they really do think, and what those thoughts 
imply.

And those are the bright ones. The rest are in Perpetual 1980: We have the

country, the troops will rally in the fall.

"This was a real wakeup call for us," someone named Robert M. Duncan, who
is 
chairman of the Republican National Committee, told the New York Times.
This 
was after Mississippi. "We can't let the Democrats take our issues." And 
those issues would be? "We can't let them pretend to be conservatives," he

continued. Why not? Republicans pretend to be conservative every day.

The Bush White House, faced with the series of losses from 2005 through
'08, 
has long claimed the problem is Republicans on the Hill and running for 
office. They have scandals, bad personalities, don't stand for anything. 
That's why Republicans are losing: because they're losers.

All true enough!

But this week a House Republican said publicly what many say privately,
that 
there is another truth. "Members and pundits . . . fail to understand the 
deep seated antipathy toward the president, the war, gas prices, the 
economy, foreclosures," said Rep. Tom Davis of Virginia in a 20-page memo
to 
House GOP leaders.

The party, Mr. Davis told me, is "an airplane flying right into a
mountain." 
Analyses of its predicament reflect an "investment in the Bush
presidency," 
but "the public has just moved so far past that." "Our leaders go up to
the 
second floor of the White House and they get a case of White House-itis." 
Mr. Bush has left the party at a disadvantage in terms of communications: 
"He can't articulate. The only asset we have now is the big microphone,
and 
he swallowed it." The party, said Mr. Davis, must admit its predicament,
act 
independently of the White House, and force Democrats to define
themselves. 
"They should have some owner****p for what's going on. They control the 
budget. They pay no price. . . . Obama has all happy talk, but it's from 
30,000 feet. Energy, immigration, what is he gonna do?"
 




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Republicans filibuster and block war funding bill
"Sid9" <sid9  2008-05-15 15:48:19 
Re: Republicans filibuster and block war funding bill
itsall_bull <itsall_bu  2008-05-15 15:48:04 
Re: Republicans filibuster and block war funding bill
"Sid9" <sid9  2008-05-15 19:09:50 
Re: Republicans filibuster and block war funding bill
"Lamont Cranston&quo  2008-05-16 08:04:13 
Re: Republicans filibuster and block war funding bill
itsall_bull <itsall_bu  2008-05-16 15:10:11 
Re: Republicans filibuster and block war funding bill
"Jack G." <j  2008-05-16 16:34:17 
Re: Republicans filibuster and block war funding bill
"Sid9" <sid9  2008-05-16 20:25:15 

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