On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:08:51 -0400,
slate <slate1947@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Rx for RRR Cult's Loathsome
> Agendas: Extinction!" <xanadu222_@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Ray Fischer -- CRIMINAL-coddler <rfischer@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Rx for RRR Cult's Loathsome
>>> Agendas: Extinction! <xanadu222_@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> There have been NO *fact-based* refutations of ANY of the
>>>> points I have made.
>>> An outright lie.
>> Wrong. And if you had a BRAIN, you'd later regret having told
>> THAT lie. But you don't seem to mind making an IDIOT of yourself,
>> because you just keep right on doing it, all the time.
>>> Here are some "fact-based" statements about chilton that have
>>> not been refuted.
>> As usual, your statements about the points I've been making
>> on this topic are DEVOID of facts, and comprise a pack of LIES. Par
>> for the course for you. And I'm about to make quivering mincemeat
>> of ALL of those lies, below. (You really LOVE to make a public FOOL
>> of yourself, don't you, Ray?)
>>> (1) Chilton is insanely bigoted against immigrants.
>> Wrong, and a very BLATANT lie. (That's Ray's stock-in-trade,
>> folks, as I'm sure you all know well by now.) With the exception of
>> native Americans (Indians), ALL Americans either are immigrants or
>> are descendents of immigrants. "Immigrants" came here LEGALLY.
>> And ILLEGAL ALIENS (*not* "immigrants") either SNEAKED into the
>> country, becoming criminals at that instant, or overstayed visas,
>> becoming criminals at THAT point.
>>
>> It's time for ALL of the ILLEGAL-alien criminals to go back home
>> again. The Sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona, is getting them
>> DE****TED in droves, and GOOD for him!
>>
>> See: http://www.squidoo.com/JoeArpaio
>>
>> But I think that MY plan is far BETTER, and would BOTH get the
>> ILLEGAL back home again... almost ALL of them... *without* the
>> need for either prosecution, de****tation, asinine walls that won't
>> work and would cost billions, or additional border officers. That is
>> detailed in the SIG.
>>> (2) Chilton hates the Constitution and wants to discard keep
>>> protections in order to persecute immigrants.
>> Another absurd LIE. First of all, we're NOT talking about
>> "immigrants." We're talking about CRIMINALS. And I seek to give
>> them all an EASY way to go home again, without even facing prose-
>> cutions or de****tations. That's the OPPOSITE of persecution.
>>
>> Secondly, I, just like most other SENSIBLE people, recognize
>> that the Constitiution is a LIVING do***ent, and not the DEAD one
>> that Ray wishes it were. And has been interpreted routinely by
>> the U.S. Supreme Court for almost as long as the USA has been
>> a country. (1804: Marbury vs. Madison)
>>> (3) Chilton wants to see thousands of people die.
>> NO one would die, unless from other causes that would have
>> claimed them anyway, whether they stayed or left. (Another very
>> STUPID lie by Ray.)
>>> (4) Chilton is, by his own words, a criminal.
>> Wrong again. A speeding ticket doesn't make a person a
>> criminal. But becoming an ILLEGAL alien DOES. As the above-
>> mentioned Sheriff has made VERY clear, in just those words, on
>> CNN and in print. (And in his position, he knows one HELL of a
>> lot MORE about the law than you probably EVER will, Ray.
>>
>> See: http://www.squidoo.com/JoeArpaio
>>> (5) Chilton is an insane liar who cannot accept the facts about
>>> immigration laws even when they stare him in the face.
>> Another blatant lie. Since I have PRESENTED those laws to
>> you before, and you are too DISHONEST to acknowledge that
>> they DO provide for CRIMINAL penalties of imprisonment and
>> fines.
>>
>> But under the law that *I* propose, they would NOT be
>> subjected to that, as the SIG below makes very clear.
>>
>> Thanks for coming out to play jacks on the freeway, Ray.
>> You just got the expected outcome for doing that.
> Hey Craig, you missed a few other points that are pertinent
> to the ~illegal~ immigration issue:
>
> "The NRC found that the average immigrant household receives $13,326
> in federal welfare and pays $10,664.00 in federal taxes. Thus,
> American taxpayers shell out $2,682.00 for each immigrant household."
>~~~~~~~~~~
>
> "Emergency medical treatment-US taxpayer money provides $250 million
> a year to help hospitals defray costs for illegal aliens. Bureau of Land
> Management-the Interior Department spends $1 million to mitigate
> environmental damage done by illegal's crossing US southern border.
> Migrant educational grants-intended to help states educate children of
> illegal workers. More fraud from over-counting. Office of Foreign
> Labor Certification-immigrant workers depress wages for US citizens
> resulting in declines in federal revenues at $100 billion annually."
>~~~~~~~~~~
>
> "As shown on CBS with Katie Couric this past week, 300,000 pregnant
> Mexican women cross the border to birth their babies, known as 'anchor
> babies', in American hospitals at an average cost of $6,000.00 per
> birth with no complications. If the child suffers heart defects, Down
> Syndrome, Autism or any other problems, the costs jump to $500,000
> with long term care into the millions of dollars. All footed by the
> America taxpayer."
>~~~~~~~~~~
>
> "When does it end? Not any time soon! Who pays? You do! Like the
> proverbial golden calf, the United States taxpayer bleeds to death
> daily while our president and Congress fiddle, faddle and scratch
> their generous rear ends while they facilitate the death of America's
> middle class." <end>
>~~~~~~~~~~
>
> http://www.rense.com/general81/dtli.htm
>
> = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
> There is a lot more information to list, however the above is reason
> enough to put an immediate halt to all ~ILLEGAL~ immigration into the
> USA.
>
> Personally? I live in a community that has approximated 30% of the
> public school children are from families that are here illegally. At
> 10K per student, my taxes have risen to 6K-plus a year, from just over
> over 3K eight years ago. It's only going to go up, as the ten year old
> school is woefully overcrowded and a new, larger school, is in the
> works. It will ultimately cost my wife and I more money in tax dollars
> yet again. It's not just my problem either. There are many people in
> the area that are on the 'ropes' financially, and the extra tax burden
> will do nothing but make life unnecessarily harder for them in an
> already heavily depressed economy.
>
> As you stated above, we are all products of immigration, and I am
>no exception. Also, I am now, and have always been, a strong sup****ter
>of immigration. ~LEGAL~ immigration that is!
>
> Slate
Thanks for all the EXCELLENT information, Slate. I've made it a
permanent addition to my SIG file, so that people can be reminded
of this periodically for many years to come!
-- Craig Chilton
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