On 24 Jul 2008 06:49:08 GMT,
Ray Fischer -- CRIMINAL-coddler <rfischer@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Rx for RRR Cult's Loathsome
> Agendas: Extinction! <xanadu222_@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Ray Fischer -- CRIMINAL-coddler <rfischer@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> There would be no reason for ANY of them to die...
>>>>>>>>> If bigoted assholes like you would learn to accept people
and act like
>>>>>>>>> Christains instead of clinging to your hatred.
>>>>>>>> There you go, making a lying IDIOT of yourself again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't you ever TIRE of being a LAUGHINGSTOCK?
>>>>>>> "Declare victory and retreat"
>>>>>> STOCK response from a COWARDLY loser who has YET to try to
refute
>>>>>> with FACTS *any* of the points I've made. So now you're even MORE
of
>>>>>> a laughingstock.
>>>>> Ad hominem.
>>>> No. FACTS.
>>> You're a liar. Your "facts" have been refuted repeatedly.
>> Isn't it INTERESTING, then, that NO one, yourself included, has
>>ever been able to PRESENT such an actual, fact-based refutation?
> You're a liar. Your "facts" have been refuted repeatedly.
If YOU were NOT a liar, you'd have been intelligent enough to PROVE
me wrong py presenting such a refutation. You never have, nor has anyone
else. (But you've WHINED and LIED a whole lot.)
>>> You couldn't even prove the two claims I addressed below
>>> and had to snip and run like that cowardly asshole that you are.
>> I answered you in DETAIL in another post, today. You REALLY blew
>> it on THAT one.
> The oldest bull**** excuse on usenet.
ROTFL!!!! You can you be that STUPID, and LIVE? Did you REALLY
think I'd let you get away with THAT blatant LIE about what I just said?
HERE is that post! --
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On 23 Jul 2008 06:22:21 GMT,
Ray Fischer -- CRIMINAL-coddler <rfischer@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Rx for RRR Cult's Loathsome
> Agendas: Extinction! <xanadu222_@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> There have been NO *fact-based* refutations of ANY of the
>> points I have made.
> An outright lie.
Wrong. And if you had a BRAIN, you'd later regret having told
THAT lie. But you don't seem to mind making an IDIOT of yourself,
because you just keep right on doing it, all the time.
>
> Here are some "fact-based" statements about chilton that have
> not been refuted.
As youual, your statements about the points I've been making
on this topic are DEVOID of facts, and comprise a pack of LIES. Par
for the course for you. And I'm about to make quivering mincemeat
of ALL of those lies, below. (You really LOVE to make a public FOOL
of yourself, don't you, Ray?)
>
>1) Chilton is insanely bigoted against immigrants.
Wrong, and a very BLATANT lie. (That's Ray's stock-in-trade,
folks, as I'm sure you all know well by now.) With the exception of
native Americans (Indians), ALL Americans either are immigrants or
are descendents of immigrants. "Immigrants" came here LEGALLY.
And ILLEGAL ALIENS (*not* "immigrants") either SNEAKED into the
country, becoming criminals at that instant, or overstayed visas,
becoming criminals at THAT point.
It's time for ALL of the ILLEGAL-alien criminals to go back home
again. The Sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona, is getting them
DE****TED in droves, and GOOD for him!
See: http://www.squidoo.com/JoeArpaio
But I think that MY plan is far BETTER, and would BOTH get the
ILLEGAL back home again... almost ALL of them... *without* the
need for either prosecution, de****tation, asinine walls that won't
work and would cost billions, or additional border officers. That is
detailed in the SIG.
>2) Chilton hates the Constitution and wants to discard keep
> protections in order to persecute immigrants.
Another absurd LIE. First of all, we're NOT talking about
"immigrants." We're talking about CRIMINALS. And I seek to give
them all an EASY way to go home again, without even facing prose-
cutions or de****tations. That's the OPPOSITE of persecution.
Secondly, I, just like most other SENSIBLE people, recognize
that the Constitiution is a LIVING do***ent, and not the DEAD one
that Ray wishes it were. And has been interpreted routinely by
the U.S. Supreme Court for almost as long as the USA has been
a country. (1804: Marbury vs. Madison)
>3) Chilton wants to see thousands of people die.
NO one would die, unless from other causes that would have
claimed them anyway, whether they stayed or left. (Another very
STUPID lie by Ray.)
>4) Chilton is, by his own words, a criminal.
Wrong again. A speeding ticket doesn't make a person a
criminal. But becoming an ILLEGAL alien DOES. As the above-
mentioned Sheriff has made VERY clear, in just those words, on
CNN and in print. (And in his position, he knows one HELL of a
lot MORE about the law than you probably EVER will, Ray.
>5) Chilton is an insane liar who cannot accept the facts about
> immigration laws even when they stare him in the face.
Another blatant lie. Since I have PRESENTED those laws to
you before, and you are too DISHONEST to acknowledge that
they DO provide for CRIMINAL penalties of imprisonment and
fines.
But under the law that *I* propose, they would NOT be
subjected to that, as the SIG below makes very clear.
Thanks for coming out to play jacks on the freeway, Ray.
You just got the expected outcome for doing that.
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-- Craig Chilton
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[[ MY note on the following: This deals with ILLEGAL aliens, whom
*I* never refer to as "immigrants." The latter are LEGAL residents
and citizens who folloed the rules and obeyed the laws to EARN
their status, legitimately. Just so you are not confused by the
terminology, whenever you see the word, "immigrant" in this
article, the term refers ONLY to *illegal aliens*, per the title.
]]
Staggering Cost Of Illegal Aliens In America
Taxpayers Taken To The Cleaners
By Frosty Wooldridge
4-10-08
Illegal alien migration into the United States costs American tax-
payers $346 billion annually re****ted by the National Research Council.
While employers of illegal aliens rake-in billions of dollars, the US
citi-
zens subsidize what may be called organized "Slavery in 21st Century
America."
While Congress facilitates outsourcing, insourcing and offshoring of
American jobs by the thousands weekly, that same Congress im****ts
82,000 legal immigrant monthly who need jobs. Another estimated
100,000 illegal aliens arrive each month without jobs. All those [people]
seize jobs from American citizens at slave wages.
What happens to the American taxpayer?
"Immigrants are poorer, pay less tax, and are more likely to receive
public benefits than American citizens," said Edwin Rubenstein, re****ting
on the National Research Council's new book: "The New Americans:
Economic, Demographics and Fiscal Effects of Immigration." The Social
Contract Winter 2007-08. <http://www.thesoicalcontract.com/>
The NRC found that the average immigrant household receives
$13,326 in federal welfare and pays $10,664.00 in federal taxes. Thus,
American taxpayers shell out $2,682.00 for each immigrant household.
In addition, the re****t showed that immigrants affect 15 different
executive agencies of the U.S. government.
Earned Income Tax Credit-fraud is rampant and IRS does little to
verify
existence of children. Clean Air and Climate Change-these goals are
unattainable as long as US population grows-driven by unending immigra-
tion. Emergency medical treatment-US taxpayer money provides $250
million a year to help hospitals defray costs for illegal aliens. Bureau
of
Land Management -- the Interior Department spends $1 million to mitigate
environmental damage done by illegals crossing US southern border.
Migrant educational grants -- intended to help states educate children of
illegal workers. More fraud from over-counting. Office of Foreign Labor
Certification-immigrant workers depress wages for US citizens resulting in
declines in federal revenues at $100 billion annually.
As shown on CBS with Katie Couric this past week, 300,000 pregnant
Mexican women cross the border to birth their babies, known as "anchor
babies," in American hospitals at an average cost of $6,000.00 per birth
with no complications. If the child suffers heart defects, Down Syndrome,
Autism or any other problems, the costs jump to $500,000.00 with long-
term care into the millions of dollars. All footed by the America
taxpayer!
Not mentioned in Couric's re****t, that child enjoys free breakfasts
and
lunches through 13 years of publicly funded education at an average cost
of $7,000.00 per year. Additionally, American taxpayers foot the bill for
all medical and housing assistance for the child and mother. More hidden
costs add up with ESL cl***** to teach the child English. Connecticut
alone suffers 120 languages in their schools while Colorado suffers over
40 foreign languages that cripple their classrooms.
The list of expenses paid for by American taxpayer soars with time
and numbers of illegal aliens. Additionally, legal immigrants sponsor
their
relatives in chain migration and family reunification at US taxpayer
expense.
These immigrants take American jobs while they burn American tax-
payer funds for immigrant welfare. This all happens while the US national
debt approaches $10 trillion. Immigrants flood into this country while
jobs
cascade out to China where we owe $1 trillion in T-bills as of 2008.
Additionally, we suffer a $700 billion annual trade deficit.
Once those illegal aliens hit this country, half of them work off the
books and do not pay $401 billion dollars annually according to the 2005
Bear Stearns Re****t. Additionally, they form the second largest under-
ground economy in the world. Both legal and illegal immigrants send $80
billion back to their home countries in cash transfers on untaxed money.
When does it end? Not any time soon! Who pays? You do! Like the
proverbial golden calf, the United States taxpayer bleeds to death daily
while our president and Congress fiddle, faddle and scratch their gener-
ous rear ends while they facilitate the death of America's middle class.
SOURCE of the above: http://www.rense.com/general81/dtli.htm
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