Re: There is NO EXCUSE for being an ILLEGAL chilton

J. J. Farrell <jjf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>Ray Fischer wrote:
>> J. J. Farrell <jjf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>> J. J. Farrell <jjf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>> (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Criminal
>>>>>>>    There have been NO *fact-based* refutations of ANY of the
points I 
>>>>>>> have made.
>>>>>> An outright lie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are some "fact-based" statements about chilton that have not
bee
>>>>>> refuted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) chilton is insanely bigoted against immigrants.
>>>>>> 2) chilton hates the Constitution and wants to discard keep
>>>>>> protections in order to persecute immigrants.
>>>>>> 3) chilton wants to see thousands of people die
>>>>>> 4) chilton is, by his own words, a criminal.
>>>>>> 5) chilton is an insane liar who cannot accept the facts about
>>>>>> immigration laws even when they stare him in the face.
>>>>> Please provide evidence to sup****t these statements.
>>>> I notice that you don't ask chilton to sup****t his statements.
>>>>
>>>> Why is that?
>>> Because I look into claims myself first. What Chilton claims to be
facts 
>>> are easily researched and either prove to be true, or are simply 
>>> personal opinion (such as his use of "belong").
>> 
>> Then you can take those statements to be opinions as well.
>
>You present them as facts and claim they are facts.

Yep.

>> Of course, they've all been justified, but I don't intend to do so
>> again.
>
>What little justification you've previously presented has been rebutted 
>fairly convincingly,

By whom?

> and you've not chosen to explain how those 
>rebuttals are incorrect.

I have.  Repeatedly.

>>> His only claimed fact 
>>> that I don't believe to be entirely accurate is "Throughout our
history, 
>>> tens of millions of people have worked HARD to EARN residency and 
>>> citizen****p here" since for much of USA history there were few 
>>> immigration laws and no need to earn residency; it's been true for the

>>> last few generations though.
>> 
>> Immigration offenses are not a criminal offense.
>
>Since when?

Quite a while.

> Are you claiming that 8USC1325 has been repealed or 
>overturned?

I suggest that you read it.  Carefully.  Note paragraph (b) that
states that it is a civil offense to entering the country without
permission.  Notice that there isn't even any mention of entering the
country legally and then overstaying.

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Ray Fischer         
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