Monkey Clumps wrote:
> On Jun 25, 10:02 pm, "Bob Eld" <nsmontas...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>> "Screen Ranger" <ScreenRanger...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>> Yup.........The Disgusting Democrats are Trying To KILL
>>> America........Donchaknow..........
>>>
>>> "House fails to move gas bill
>>>
>>> Wed Jun 25, 2008
>>>
>>> WA****NGTON (AP) - House Democrats failed Tuesday to resurrect a bill
>>> to punish price gouging at the gas pump, while maneuvering to block
>>> Republican attempts to expand offshore drilling, an idea gaining in
>>> popularity amid $4-a-gallon gas prices.
>>>
>>> Action on legislation that would assure continuation of the ban on oil
>>> and natural gas drilling in most of the country's coastal waters was
>>> put off until later this summer after it became increasingly clear
>>> that Republican lawmakers may have the votes to lift the drilling
>>> moratorium.
>>>
>>> Republicans charged that they were being blocked from getting a vote
>>> on whether to end the ban on offshore oil and gas drilling."
>>>
>> Total bull ****. Most oil company leases are UNDRILLED. Let them drill
>> what's on their plate first before opening more regions for drilling.
>>
>
> Sorry, thats just a red herring. Just because an oil company leased a
> parcel doesn't mean there is enough oil to be worth setting up
> production. Under the best cir***stances only a fraction of the area
> leased will be worth producing. Do think oil companies are so stupid
> as to not bother drilling a huge find of oil that they already have
> leased? Oil companies surely do exploratory drilling on the their
> leased parcel and then decide whether there is enough oil there
> justify the enormous expense of setting up a production platform. If
> we want more domestic oil we have to open up more of our offshore for
> them to explore.
>
the red herring is that they do want to increase oil supplies. Hint:
when oil supplies go up, oil prices come down. The sad fact is that on
the few thousand of the tens of thousands leased and permitted acres
that they drilled on, more than ten thousand oil wells were proven to
bear oil then they were CAPPED.
Oil-bearing lands leased to oil companies does NOT belong to the
American people: it belongs to the drilling oil company.
Use it/or lose it legislation is trying to make its way through. If it
p***** they will either drill on what they have already been given or
they will lose the right to the oil.
>> Secondly there's no way in hell they are going to drill in California
or
>> Florida because the people in those states don't want it.
>>
>
> We should let the states decide that, not the feds. Sounds like
> Florida might have change of heart. After all the Chinese are already
> drilling off their shore, why not let the Americans?
>
horse****. if it is international waters, anyone INCLUDING American oil
companies already have the right to it. If it is American waters, no
one can drill it without permission from American government; farther
in, they cannot drill w/o permission of the individual state.
>> Thirdly, no amount of drilling will end the current situation. At best
it
>> gives a couple of more years against the inevitable, the end of oil.
>>
>
> The difference is that if we keep finding more oil, we buy ourselves
> more time. Right now alternative sources are not ready to fill in the
> gap. Having our economy implode because of a scarcity of energy is
> going to disrupt everything, including the development of alternative
> technologies.
>
>
>
in ten years this country can accomplish technological miracles, as it
has countless times. When there is sufficient incentive to do so; right
now, there is sufficient profit motive to hold back the technology.
They sure as hell won't do it till the moment they have to.
>> Now is the time to quit jacking off and begin the inevitable switch to
>> alternatives. Sooner or later we HAVE to do it anyway, it might as well
be
>> now!
>>
>
> We don't have the technology yet. Shutting down the oil spigot right
> now will be disastrous. Even now, American industry is struggling to
> adjust to the massive increase in oil and gas prices. Our assembly
> lines are pumping out huge gas guzzling trucks and SUVs and you can't
> just snap your fingers and change that output to subcompacts. It
> takes years to retool. Ford and GM are screwed and they will need a
> miracle to survive the next few years. What we are talking about is
> the difference between a controlled transition and a crash. Not
> opening up new sources of oil to compensate for the ones being used up
> will be asking for a crash, and that will benefit no one.
>
>
By god, you just keep your eye on the rest of the world: if our big
business won't extend themselves, the Japanese, Chinese, Russians,
Indians (and some 3rd world midgets) damn sure will.
--
"Sarah, if the American people had ever known the truth about what we
Bushes have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets
and lynched."
--- George Herbert Walker Bush, in an interview with Sarah McClendon, 1992
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