Re: That's it! I'm voting for McCain

"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> This is Major Debacle's brain on drugs:
>>Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> "bushhelpscor****ationsdestroyamerica"
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>>> On Jul 2, 11:15 pm, Major Debacle <Major_Debacle@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> wrote:
>>>> Raymond wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 1, 9:32 am, Major Debacle <Major_Debacle@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Obama to expand Bush's faith based programs
>>>>>> CHICAGO (AP) - Reaching out to evangelical voters, Democratic
>>>>>> presidential candidate Barack Obama is announcing plans to expand
>>>>>> President Bush's program steering federal social service dollars to
>>>>>> religious groups and - in a move sure to cause controversy -
sup****t
>>>>>> some ability to hire and fire based on faith.
>>>>>>
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jqqqF79sCN4HSE6uVrPQVBQpYZVwD91L2DFO0
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>>>>>> Meth is your friend
>>>>> That's it! I'm voting for McCain
>>>>> WHICH ONE ..... 2000 John or 2008 Judas McCain?
>>>> Who ya got?
>>>>
>>>> Obama just lost my vote, that's for sure.
>>>>
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>>>> they all lie dumb****, if you vote mccain, war forever
>>>
>>> You're lying, dumb****.
>>>
>>>> and guaranteed
>>>> $8.00 a gallon gas.
>>>
>>> McCain is not the one who opposes nuke power,
>>
>>> off shore drilling
>>
>>No... that would be Bush:
>>
>>"The Bush administration in 2001 backed off a proposal to allow drilling
>>in the Gulf of Mexico in an area that came as close as 16 miles to
>>beaches in Florida's panhandle. What the Bush administration approved
>>instead keeps drilling at least 100 miles from the coast."
>>
>>http://www.factcheck.org/article183.html
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> That was seven years ago when a tank of gas was thirty bucks.  Now
> it's sixty five.  What do you not understand about politicians
> changing their positions when conditions change?  It's called popular
> rule aka democracy.  These flip flop arguments are absurd particularly
> given one that's years old.
>
> There is nothing in these changes that surprises me from either party.
> Today's news that Obama has supposedly indicated that he might have to
> go back on his 16 month plan is just such an example.  I always
> thought it was ridiculous and knew he could never pull off a promise
> like that and now he's in trouble again.  I'd be willing to bet that
> Hillary has more knowledge and understanding of the world scene than
> Obama.  Could this subtle ****ft in attitude result from knowledge and
> experience from the Clintons?
>
> In any case, I don't view Obama as a radical liberal.  His health care
> plan is an example of his commitment to market solutions.  His recent
> sup****t of faith based initiatives has been criticized by both camps
> but to me is exactly what society needs.  The church works best when
> it stays out of politics.  It's role is the hearts of the people, or
> at least those so inclined.  If the hearts are right, the votes will
> be too.
>
>>> and wants
>>> to raise taxes on the oil companies, ya dumb****.
>
> Obama?  Just cut the breaks and subsidies.  I see no reason to pay for
> my gas at the pump an on April 15.  Let big oil raise their price for
> gas (ok, petroleum distillates, derivatives, etc.) and invest those
> profits in new energy markets.  We can use our oil addiction to
> finance our rehab.
>
> Swill

Some good points above. Obama's voting record is what it is (far left),
but 
this was also a young man, and the young are particularly prone to sup****t

ideals that are marginally workable or unworkable in practice. From the 
get-go, his economic team has been built around guys from the University
of 
Chicago School of Economics, which is the world's primary Hayekian 
think-tank; and although the leftists have been rationalizing this little 
fact away by claming that U of Chicago has moved away from this
orientation, 
that-just-ain't-so. Add to that the recent addition of folks what were
part 
of Robert Rubin's economic team in the late 90's, and you can see the 
writing on the wall -- the far leftists who envision Obama turning the US 
into Sweden or re-establi****ng Carter-era taxation rates are about to get 
thrown under the bus (but, thanks for all that hard work during the
primary 
campaign.)

On the faith-based issue, critics of the faith based programs AND of the 
political power the "religious right" has in the US ought to consider that

the political right didn't start to develop in this country until certain 
court decisions in the 60's (be they right or be they wrong) made them
feel 
that they had no seat at the table. Active public/church partner****ps 
through the faith-based initiative program are probably the best way to 
lessen their interest in active political involvement.

It's all triangulation at this point. Obama's not as much "tacking" to the

center as he has spun the wheel around and floored it, heading back to
this 
"political center." Part of it's to get elected, I'm sure, but part of it 
must be as you have said -- he's gotten the equivalent of three or four
new 
bachelor's degrees in various government disciplines over he last 18
monts, 
and really, REALLY smart people have been telling him -- "look, dude, that

stuff plays in Berekely and Madison, but it won't get you elected, and 
besides (and more im****tantly) that **** won't work in practice, anyway.")

He doesn't get my vote until he backs off the infernal 28% capital gains 
threat, but he's definitely moving to the center.

JG