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Global Spiritual Summit

by David Dalton <dalton@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 20, 2003 at 02:55 AM

On my web page  http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html
I have
begun to lobby for a UN-sponsored global spiritual summit with
representation from all spiritual paths and atheism and agnosticism.
Small paths would be represented on a mini-umbrella council
which would send a representative to the main council.  Said
main council (perhaps enforced by the UN) would set out a
minimum set of human rights, environmental and animal rights
standards that each path would have to meet (some would
exceed them) to be recognized by the UN.   Said standards
would include tolerance of other paths also meeting the standards.

Now here is a slightly edited version of the short version of my 
web  page:

My main messages (which I am pu****ng, but am not pu****ng other details
of my personal spiritual path, and am not in an organized path and am
not starting one)  are: 

---  strive to love both within our species and to members of other
     species and to each species as a unit and to the environment 

---  there are many possible paths up a mountain, and many do in
     theory meet or exceed UN-determined loving standards and others
     could easily be adjusted from within to do so.  (See below for
     my rough initial suggestions for such a UN spiritual summit
     agenda and follow up with your own if you like.)

--- not taking up a path unless it truly resonates with you, and have
     an individual connection with the path and not just blindly
     follow; i.e. an individual connection to the divine (or within
     society and the environment if you are an atheist), 

--- individual responsibility to be a seed of good (e.g. to grow the
      flame of love within you by internal and external good thoughts
      and good deeds so as to make love/goodness a larger part of
       all/everything) 

--- believe anything that there is evidence for (but work to change it
        if it is not loving) and don't believe something that there is
        evidence against (but try to bring it into existence if it is
         loving) and feel free to believe anything you like that is
         loving and that has no evidence for or against it but don't
         shove such theories down anyone else's throat.  Of course I
         am pu****ng these messages but I think there is some evidence
          for and need for them. 

--- some similarities between the lives (and in many cases message
       overlap to some extent too) of some past pagan and non-pagan
       figures; I have done very little research in this area since
       1997 but do claim I am similar to some such past figures and
       present my biographical data and writings so far so you can
       make the decision (though really you might not for decades).
      However I don`t want glory by such a claim but merely a little
      backing for my messages, i.e. you may be more likely to view
     such messages as inspired. However I know some are likely to 
     take me less seriously with such a claim.  And I intend to
     maintain my grounding in science and will try to explain my
     lunar and solar cycles in terms of resonance with natural
    cycles and if I successful in instigating change that could
     be explained as a systemic focus of change or butterfly
     catastrophe/chaos theory unfolding of a biological system
     (our species).


Now here is a bit more on my proposed UN Spiritual Summit.

There should be a UN-sponsored global spiritual summit of
representatives of all spiritual paths (including small ones) and 
atheism and agnosticism which would set out a minimum standard for 
spiritual paths that would meet international human (including women) 
rights and environmental standards and animal rights standards and 
would require tolerance of other paths also meeting the standards. But
beyond such standards there would be lots of loving diversity, many 
petals on the rose. 

My suggestions so far (and you can think of your own, and follow
up with them if you like) for agenda items for such a summit are
 below. 

--- no human sacrifice, 

--- possibly no animal sacrifice but that might be debatable in cases
    of non-supermarket peoples who treat the animal humanely and
    consume or use the body but I lean against it personally,
 
--- no ****orectomy,
 
--- no discrimination against women, children, or men (but e.g. it may
     be acceptable to have same *** sweat lodges or even same ***
    organizations such as Dianic Wicca); and ordination of both
    genders in paths that include both genders.
 
--- ramble (will edit): no discrimination against natural same ***
    ***uality or even natural ***uality in general (except rape 
    and *** with children and *** with animals), or against those 
   who choose a celibate lifestyle as long as that ***ual repression
   does not lead to child abuse. I also tend to lean toward sup****ting
   allowance of committed polyamoric relation****ps such as those
   described on newsgroup alt.polyamory . I tend to lean to some 
   sort of commitment/connection before *** but not necessarily
    marriage immediately but perhaps the prospect 
    (thought/possibility) of marriage especially if the ***ual fire
     does turn out to be strong both ways; and use of birth control
    before marriage (and for family planning after marriage; and
    condoms for protection against HIV and other STDs). It is time 
   we dropped old military pronouncements designed to increase
    population for military purposes or religious path strength; we
    now have a population of nearly 6 billion. Such pronouncements
    include those against loving compatible adult same ***
     relation****ps, against masturbation, against birth control,
     against committed marriage groups of more than two, and 
    against education of girls and women and employment of women. 
    But I am against *** where there is not love and lust both ways
     since that is like a form of cold rape, and I am against *** as 
     a commodity or leverage tool though I know some individuals 
     are forced into that and I hope that that will become no longer
      necessary. But don`t have *** unless there is love and true lust
      both ways else it can cause negative effects, and I include
      lustless *** for procreation only in that. 

--- no environmental abuse (or at least strive towards that) 

--- no abuse of other species (ideally love other species as a whole
       species and strive to love individual members of other species)

--- strive to love all members of our own species, but loving
      non-loving individuals may include curing them rather than just
      turning the other cheek in all cases, but ideally methods other
      than war can be used for
       persuasion/healing/transformation/mediation/negotiation 

--- no intolerance of other paths that meet the standard, and that
       there are many paths up the spiritual/moral mountain and that
       someone else in another loving path won't suffer for eternity
       for not being in a certain path 

--- again acceptance of birth control, and I lean towards acceptance
      of early abortion but that is debatable and sangomas may know
      more about that (whether a certain added mom aura glint/glow
      comes in at conception or e.g. 3 lunar months after, or
       something like that?), 

--- no enforced enrolment in a path but only enrolment after an
      educated choice (feeling of resonance with the path/individual
       connection with the divine or if atheist, maybe within the
       society and  environment), 

--- individual responsibility to be a seed of good, rather than just
         passive dependence on other humans or deities.
 
---  I would lobby for recognition of similarities in the lives of
       some past pagan and non-pagan religious figures and 
        probably in their messages though I haven't delved as 
        much into that (their messages) yet.   The reason some
       are more well known today is because they were in
       more populated areas or hubs, used writing, their stuff
       was later taken up by agressive evangelists such as Paul,
       and their stuff may have been taken up as state religion
       by imperialists such as the Romans
.. 
However I am not lobbying for anyone to accept the other elements of
my evolving individual polytheistic neopagan religion and I am
currently not in an organized path and am not trying to start one, but
I am a non-denominational neopagan, and am also human (and
have partly explained my experiences in terms of science and
partly explained my beliefs in terms of science and will continue
to work on that) 

David
 




 3 Posts in Topic:
Global Spiritual Summit
David Dalton <dalton@[  2003-08-20 02:55:29 
Re: Global Spiritual Summit
"Lawson English"  2003-08-20 08:54:45 
Re: Global Spiritual Summit
dalton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2003-08-23 18:31:39 

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