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Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'

by z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 17, 2008 at 02:29 PM

Info Junkie <bondrock@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in 
news:k4st24p1m96pa7d58o8la7ev6lj1p9o54i@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Sat, 17 May 2008 07:29:35 -0500, z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
>>cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-buzz-corey@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
>>news:c475899d-3ac9-414f-b1d4-745ecec7007e@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
>>
>>> On May 16, 10:13 pm, Mike Roberts <M...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
>>>>
>>>> May 16 10:49 AM US/Eastern
>>>> Matthis Chiroux is the kind of young American US military recruiters
>>>> love. 
>>>>
>>>> "I was from a poor, white family from the south, and I did badly in
>>>> school," the now 24-year-old told AFP.
>>>>
>>>> "I was 'filet mignon' for recruiters. They started phoning me when I
>>>> was in 10th grade," or around 16 years old, he added.
>>>>
>>>> Chiroux joined the US army straight out of high school nearly six
>>>> years ago, and worked his way up from private to sergeant.
>>>>
>>>> He served in Afghanistan, Germany, Japan, and the Philippines and 
was
>>>> due to be deployed next month in Iraq.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, he refused to go, saying he considers Iraq an illegal
>>>> war. 
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately he doesn't have the authority to make the decision of
>>> whether the war is illegal or not, or whether he serves even if he
>>> does think it is illegal. He should have thought about all that 
before
>>> he signed the dotted line.
>>
>>It is his duty to refuse an illegal order
> 
> All soliders do indeed have a "...duty to refuse an illegal order".  
> 
> "...However, the dictates of a person’s conscience, religion, or
> personal philosophy cannot justify or excuse the disobedience of an
> otherwise lawful order."
> http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/law/mcm.pdf
> 
> The posted article shows no illegal order given to the sergeant. Ergo,
> your comment is non sequitur. 
> 

The soldier has a different opinion apparently.
 




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US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
Mike Roberts <MRMR@[EM  2008-05-16 21:13:51 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-16 21:26:20 
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Raymond <Bluerhymer@[E  2008-05-16 21:43:37 
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"David Moffitt"  2008-05-17 00:17:31 
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Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-05-17 14:05:05 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-17 07:28:56 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
"Docky Wocky" &  2008-05-17 16:19:14 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-17 20:06:31 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 05:20:11 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 08:18:38 
ROTFLMAO!!!
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 18:41:34 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 20:46:13 
Uhhh...Hey Buttboy...
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 20:48:40 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-19 08:59:05 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-16 21:50:55 
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dennmac@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-17 00:43:10 
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"David Moffitt"  2008-05-17 10:31:48 
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* US *   2008-05-17 20:07:48 
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Kurt Lochner <kurt_loc  2008-05-17 23:37:30 
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Eat the rich <goofindo  2008-05-17 02:37:21 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 07:00:20 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-17 08:07:03 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
Vandar <vandar69@[EMAI  2008-05-17 10:26:33 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-17 19:07:18 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 10:49:56 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-17 19:07:18 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 20:57:55 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 05:16:42 
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* US *   2008-05-18 08:24:11 
Translation...
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 18:16:38 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 20:28:13 
Uhhh....Hey Buttboy...
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 20:43:33 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 08:25:51 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-19 18:44:25 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-20 07:27:19 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
abelincoln <bushsucks@  2008-05-17 12:24:47 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-17 20:08:14 
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Middle Class Warrior <  2008-05-17 15:34:05 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 12:16:33 
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z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-17 07:29:35 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 10:49:59 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-17 14:29:11 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 18:15:25 
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z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-17 17:35:04 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 21:08:34 
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z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-17 20:16:52 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 21:29:04 
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z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-17 21:21:19 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-18 07:11:32 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-18 12:08:55 
ROTFLMAO!!!
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 18:15:18 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-19 21:01:40 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-19 23:59:47 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-22 19:57:59 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
* US *   2008-05-22 21:37:42 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
* US *   2008-05-20 07:27:19 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
Harold Burton <hal.i.b  2008-05-19 21:51:16 
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Harold Burton <hal.i.b  2008-05-19 21:48:59 
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z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-20 00:04:22 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-17 19:07:18 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 20:49:01 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 05:18:44 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 08:32:22 
Uhhh...Hey Buttboy
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 18:06:47 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 20:28:13 
Uhhh...Hey Buttboy
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 20:46:37 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 08:30:07 
Translation....
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 18:07:47 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 20:28:14 
Uhhh....Hey Buttboy...
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 20:45:17 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
Harold Burton <hal.i.b  2008-05-19 21:47:24 
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z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-20 00:07:31 
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Kevin Cunningham <smsk  2008-05-17 07:29:19 
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Mike Roberts <MRMR@[EM  2008-05-17 12:22:13 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 18:18:51 
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Elias D <EliasD@[EMAIL  2008-05-17 10:17:17 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 11:57:07 
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Elias D <EliasD@[EMAIL  2008-05-17 15:21:20 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 20:12:28 
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cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-17 20:12:35 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-17 20:13:09 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 08:26:09 
Uhhh...Hey Buttboy...
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-23 10:27:24 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-23 21:38:24 
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who@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-24 06:09:04 
Isn't That The sweetest Thing You Ever Saw?
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-25 23:32:56 
ROTFLMAO!!!
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-25 22:48:55 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-26 07:37:33 
Matthis Chiroux Admitted On CNN of Being Coward
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-26 09:16:53 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-26 12:21:28 
Matthis Chiroux Admitted On CNN Of Being Coward
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-26 11:39:23 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-26 13:11:02 
Retard Buttboy *US* Squeals
">Harley<"  2008-05-31 01:00:09 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-17 20:14:24 
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cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-17 20:16:26 
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"Docky Wocky" &  2008-05-18 15:38:52 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
* US *   2008-05-18 17:00:06 
Uhhh...Hey Squealing Buttboy...
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 18:14:35 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 20:28:14 
Uhhh...Hey Buttboy...
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 20:46:14 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-17 20:17:14 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-17 20:20:29 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 17:00:06 
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abelincoln <bushsucks@  2008-05-17 12:13:24 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-17 12:30:56 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 20:29:55 
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Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-05-18 22:36:36 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-20 20:05:04 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-05-22 14:36:26 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-24 19:02:06 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
* US *   2008-05-19 09:03:19 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-20 19:40:28 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
* US *   2008-05-21 07:07:32 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-23 16:17:53 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-23 15:40:36 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
* US *   2008-05-23 21:42:27 
ROTFLMAO!!!
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-25 22:51:40 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
* US *   2008-05-23 21:42:03 
LOL!!! CUCKOO!!! CUCKOO!!! CUCKOO!!!
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-25 22:52:20 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-22 22:37:38 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
* US *   2008-05-23 07:07:06 
Uhhh...Hey Buttboy...
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-23 10:26:22 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
* US *   2008-05-23 21:40:00 
ROTFLMAO!!!
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-25 22:49:36 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-26 07:37:33 
Matthis Chiroux Admitted On CNN Of Being Coward
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-26 09:18:18 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-26 12:21:28 
Matthis Chiroux Admitted On CNN Of Being A Coward
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-26 11:40:26 
Re: Matthis Chiroux Admitted On CNN Of Being A Coward
* US *   2008-05-26 13:11:02 
Re: Matthis Chiroux Admitted On CNN Of Being A Coward
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-26 15:53:11 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-26 17:45:07 
Hey Buttboy
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-26 23:16:40 
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Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-23 23:06:53 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
* US *   2008-05-24 08:18:47 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-24 22:47:18 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
* US *   2008-05-25 19:53:59 
WARNING!!! DUMBASS ALERT!!! DUMBASS ALERT!!! WARNING!!!
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-25 22:51:02 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-25 22:53:09 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
mike3 <mike4ty4@[EMAIL  2008-05-24 00:09:47 

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