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Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'

by Info Junkie <bondrock@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 17, 2008 at 08:12 PM

On Sat, 17 May 2008 15:21:20 -0500, Elias D <EliasD@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:

>Info Junkie wrote:
>
>> 
>>>It could be argued that his experience amounted to an illegal
>>>contract.  He did not have the capacity to understand what was going
>>>on.  He did not have the capacity to withstand the massive
>>>propaganda leveled at our youth.
>>>
>>>As he grew up and became educated thru experience and/or education,
>>>he started to realize what is going on.
>> 
>> The "argument" would be a lost cause. IAW US law he was at 18 yrs
>> old...an adult fully capable of fulfilling a legal contract. All
>> soldiers take a battery of tests to ensure they are capable of
>> understandng their obligations and the military's need to fulfill
>> their missions.
>> 
>According to you.  

Then I'm sure you'r going to provide NG readers evidence that since
WWI, personnel that voluntarily joined the US military, and decided
AFTER four or more years of active duty military service, their
"experience amounted to an illegal contract" or they "did not have the
capacity to understand what was going on" and/or they "did not have
the capacity to withstand the massive propaganda leveled at" them. 

ROtFLMHO. What total and utter baloney....

Since this guy is a sergeant in the US Army:
"Under 635-200, what grounds may a soldier request a voluntary
discharge?

Hard****p/dependency, conscientious objection, good of the service,
minority, convenience of the government, and pregnancy" 
http://sill-www.army.mil/usancoa/PDF%20Files/study_guide_2002.pdf

>All it takes is a single favorable court willing to interpret or make
>some new case law.  It may or may not hold up under government appeal
>but at least there would precedent for future legal actions.

Ah...the "woulda, shoulda, coulda" argument.  It doesn't require a
court case.  If he's wants out so badly, he free to request a
voluntary discharge under AR 635-200.
http://sill-www.army.mil/usancoa/PDF%20Files/study_guide_2002.pdf

>Besides, what kid in high school is going to have the capacity to
>understand what real US "foreign policy" is all about?  At that age,
>precious few have the ability to understand the carnage and death
>being spread around by uncle sam.

ROTFLMHO.  Tell us, "what kid in high school is going to have the
capacity to understand what real US":

1. "commerce...is all about" before they start their first job?
2.  "manufacturing...is all about" before they buy their first car?
3.  "banking...is all about" before they open their first account?

It's obvious that now, you're just *grasping-at-straws*. 

ITM, read the *politics NGs in Usenet. The majority don't understand
"what real US "foreign policy" is all about".  They spend the majority
of their posts tra****ng each other's political party...and age is
irrelevent.
 




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US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
Mike Roberts <MRMR@[EM  2008-05-16 21:13:51 
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cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-16 21:26:20 
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Raymond <Bluerhymer@[E  2008-05-16 21:43:37 
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"David Moffitt"  2008-05-17 00:17:31 
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Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-05-17 14:05:05 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-17 07:28:56 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
"Docky Wocky" &  2008-05-17 16:19:14 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-17 20:06:31 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 05:20:11 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 08:18:38 
ROTFLMAO!!!
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 18:41:34 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 20:46:13 
Uhhh...Hey Buttboy...
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 20:48:40 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-19 08:59:05 
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cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-16 21:50:55 
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dennmac@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-17 00:43:10 
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"David Moffitt"  2008-05-17 10:31:48 
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Kurt Lochner <kurt_loc  2008-05-17 23:37:30 
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Eat the rich <goofindo  2008-05-17 02:37:21 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 07:00:20 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-17 08:07:03 
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Vandar <vandar69@[EMAI  2008-05-17 10:26:33 
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* US *   2008-05-17 19:07:18 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 10:49:56 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-17 19:07:18 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 20:57:55 
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"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 05:16:42 
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* US *   2008-05-18 08:24:11 
Translation...
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 18:16:38 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 20:28:13 
Uhhh....Hey Buttboy...
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 20:43:33 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 08:25:51 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-19 18:44:25 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-20 07:27:19 
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abelincoln <bushsucks@  2008-05-17 12:24:47 
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* US *   2008-05-17 20:08:14 
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Middle Class Warrior <  2008-05-17 15:34:05 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 12:16:33 
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z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-17 07:29:35 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 10:49:59 
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z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-17 14:29:11 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 18:15:25 
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z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-17 17:35:04 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 21:08:34 
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z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-17 20:16:52 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 21:29:04 
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z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-17 21:21:19 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-18 07:11:32 
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z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-18 12:08:55 
ROTFLMAO!!!
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 18:15:18 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-19 21:01:40 
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z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-19 23:59:47 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-22 19:57:59 
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* US *   2008-05-22 21:37:42 
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* US *   2008-05-20 07:27:19 
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Harold Burton <hal.i.b  2008-05-19 21:51:16 
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Harold Burton <hal.i.b  2008-05-19 21:48:59 
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z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-20 00:04:22 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-17 19:07:18 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 20:49:01 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 05:18:44 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 08:32:22 
Uhhh...Hey Buttboy
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 18:06:47 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 20:28:13 
Uhhh...Hey Buttboy
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 20:46:37 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 08:30:07 
Translation....
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 18:07:47 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 20:28:14 
Uhhh....Hey Buttboy...
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 20:45:17 
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Harold Burton <hal.i.b  2008-05-19 21:47:24 
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z <z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-20 00:07:31 
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Kevin Cunningham <smsk  2008-05-17 07:29:19 
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Mike Roberts <MRMR@[EM  2008-05-17 12:22:13 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 18:18:51 
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Elias D <EliasD@[EMAIL  2008-05-17 10:17:17 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 11:57:07 
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Elias D <EliasD@[EMAIL  2008-05-17 15:21:20 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 20:12:28 
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cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-17 20:12:35 
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cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-17 20:13:09 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 08:26:09 
Uhhh...Hey Buttboy...
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-23 10:27:24 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-23 21:38:24 
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who@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-24 06:09:04 
Isn't That The sweetest Thing You Ever Saw?
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-25 23:32:56 
ROTFLMAO!!!
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-25 22:48:55 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-26 07:37:33 
Matthis Chiroux Admitted On CNN of Being Coward
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-26 09:16:53 
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* US *   2008-05-26 12:21:28 
Matthis Chiroux Admitted On CNN Of Being Coward
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-26 11:39:23 
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* US *   2008-05-26 13:11:02 
Retard Buttboy *US* Squeals
">Harley<"  2008-05-31 01:00:09 
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cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-17 20:14:24 
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cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-17 20:16:26 
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"Docky Wocky" &  2008-05-18 15:38:52 
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* US *   2008-05-18 17:00:06 
Uhhh...Hey Squealing Buttboy...
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 18:14:35 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 20:28:14 
Uhhh...Hey Buttboy...
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-18 20:46:14 
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cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-17 20:17:14 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-17 20:20:29 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-18 17:00:06 
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abelincoln <bushsucks@  2008-05-17 12:13:24 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-17 12:30:56 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-17 20:29:55 
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Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-05-18 22:36:36 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-20 20:05:04 
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Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-05-22 14:36:26 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-24 19:02:06 
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* US *   2008-05-19 09:03:19 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-20 19:40:28 
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* US *   2008-05-21 07:07:32 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-05-23 16:17:53 
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"Harley" <Co  2008-05-23 15:40:36 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
* US *   2008-05-23 21:42:27 
ROTFLMAO!!!
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-25 22:51:40 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
* US *   2008-05-23 21:42:03 
LOL!!! CUCKOO!!! CUCKOO!!! CUCKOO!!!
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-25 22:52:20 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-22 22:37:38 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
* US *   2008-05-23 07:07:06 
Uhhh...Hey Buttboy...
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-23 10:26:22 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
* US *   2008-05-23 21:40:00 
ROTFLMAO!!!
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-25 22:49:36 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-26 07:37:33 
Matthis Chiroux Admitted On CNN Of Being Coward
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-26 09:18:18 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-26 12:21:28 
Matthis Chiroux Admitted On CNN Of Being A Coward
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-26 11:40:26 
Re: Matthis Chiroux Admitted On CNN Of Being A Coward
* US *   2008-05-26 13:11:02 
Re: Matthis Chiroux Admitted On CNN Of Being A Coward
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-26 15:53:11 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' - Matthis
* US *   2008-05-26 17:45:07 
Hey Buttboy
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-26 23:16:40 
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Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-23 23:06:53 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
* US *   2008-05-24 08:18:47 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-  2008-05-24 22:47:18 
Re: US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
* US *   2008-05-25 19:53:59 
WARNING!!! DUMBASS ALERT!!! DUMBASS ALERT!!! WARNING!!!
"Harley" <Co  2008-05-25 22:51:02 
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"Harley" <Co  2008-05-25 22:53:09 
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