On May 17, 5:58=A0pm, ernie1241 <ernie1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Curt: I have no idea who Madeleine Brown is or what she bases her
> statements upon. =A0Have you investigated her sup****ting do***entation?
>
Well, yes. It is one of those folks that they really had to supress,
shut-down, discredit, because as they say she was too much of a
smoking gun. This pattern existed all throughout the investigation of
JFK especially when the public didn't buy it and the real research and
investigation began. As far as JBS, it wouldn't be very hard to
fathom since his sons would likely be following in H.L's footsteps. I
hope you got a chance to peruse the chapter I gave you to the extent
of his radio and literature he put out and how powerful he actually
was. Here is a few things Madeleine put out....after most of the
conspirators were dead and gone.
Robert Gaylon Ross 81 Minute Interview with Madeleine Brown
http://hubpages.com/hub/Madeleine_Duncan_Brown
Subject: JFK Mistress Speaks Out --- Prisonplanet.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D79lOKs0Kr_Y
The Murchison Party (M. Brown, May Newman)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DawGbwIIIYug&feature=3Drelated
J. Edgar Hoover, Oil Friends, and 'Non-Existant' Mafia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9fqMA9YV3ks&feature=3Drelated
> H.L. Hunt did enjoy gambling and he had a "health" fetish interest in
> unorthodox remedies-- but I've never seen any data suggesting that he
> was ever taking drugs -- by which I presume you mean illegal drugs?
>
I will try to look it up. Jack Ruby was the biggest heroin dealer
(via FBI informancy) in Dallas via Havana. He made a lot of flights
to Havana and was not the 'two-bit strip joint owner' that is
****trayed by WC defenders. If I remember right, H.L had a penchant
for coke. H.L. basically was an untouchable in all the JFK mess
because most of his doings were by money, especially his gung ho
attitude of overthrowing Castro and financing a lot of the stuff going
on in Lake Ponchartrain. A lot of right-wingers were behind that too,
like the Luce's of Time-Life.
> Yes -- "lots of people" were FBI "informants" but many times, people
> who CLAIMED to have been an FBI "undercover agent" or "informant" were
> lying. =A0I do***ent this in my JBS re****t -- chapter 7 and also in my
> new re****t on Edgar Bundy (Church League of America).
>
Here's a fact. In 1971 the American Communist Party was down to 2,800
people from the 1940's when it was up to 80,000. In 1971 it was
estimated that over half of the FBI informants were Communists. Pg.
216 of Crossfire..Jim Marrs.
> Legitimate FBI informants were rated in terms of their reliability.
> Initially, they were on probationary status in order weed out those
> whose information was useless or non-credible. =A0There are ways to
> establish who GENUINELY was an FBI informant -- and I suspect that
> someone like Harry Dean has never been rigorously questioned about his
> claims.
>
Whether it's bona fide or not,....his claims of infiltration must
stand on their own merits.
> Your comments about J. Edgar Hoover and the JBS are not sup****ted by
> any evidence I have seen. =A0I have acquired more than 30,000 pages of
> FBI HQ and field office files on the JBS and its prominent members and
> sympathizers. =A0In fact, in many instances, I am the ONLY person who
> has ever requested and received those do***ents --- so I can't imagine
> what your statements are based on. =A0I suggest you read my JBS Re****t
> (65 pages). =A0You will discover the attitude of senior FBI officials
> (including Hoover) about Robert Welch and the JBS. =A0I cite numerous
> direct quotations from FBI re****ts and memos.
>
I can only say what I think. At the time the Mafia was taking a
stronghold in America, JEH only had 4 agents doing a desk job on
them. JEH went after people that were non-threatening. I think he
thought of the JBS as eccentric. I am one to go along with some of
the stuff they say, like what they would agree on in Gary Allen's None
Dare Call It Conspiracy (an online read). I do think the JBS has
people like H.L. Hunt who think the commies are out to steal his
money...and are duped by those who know in those circles that
capitalism is what gave Marx and the Bolsheviks their source for
propaganda and power via Wall Street. Anyway, that's why I asked to
draw out what you know instead of going through 65 pages of not-so-
easy to read do***ents and stuff. As far as agents and suppressing,
as far as the JFK assassination, you just have to look at the
bumbling's. Their closely moniotring of LHO (who was an FBI informant
by many) - only to say they knew nothing when they took him into
custody. The teletypes that were received by agents in Dallas
disappearing...and most of all the evidence gathered by the Dallas
Police and photographed..confiscated by Hoover and the FBI..to be
returned 4 days later with half the evidence gone to redacted, to all
the things they had to do. Someone had to come up with the idea that
one man was guilty and it came from that office within an hour after
the shooting, and publicly a few days later by memo (without any real
evidence). You can find much of that stuff online in Harvey and Lee
for specifics. If you want to know the man Hoover and how he handled
or manhandled his agents...I might suggest an Anthony Summers
book..like The Secret and Confidential Life of J.Edgar Hoover.
CJ
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