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Re: What 'War' Was That Idiot Talking about?

by "bvallely@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <bvallely@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 23, 2008 at 11:17 AM

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> <bvall...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> >> >The problem is that even Obama and the New York Times admit that we
> >> >won the war.
..
> >> SO we can go home then?
..
> >That was the approach we used after WWI.  By abandoning Germany and
> >returning home after the war, we allowed Adolf Hitler to rise to
> >power.
..
> >After WWII, having learned our lesson, the United States instituted
> >the Marshal Plan which, in today's money, cost trillions.  Thanks to
> >that forward looking plan, we know have powerful allies instead of
> >powerful enemies.
..
> >So tell me - why do you want to emulate the plan that brought us Adolf
> >Hitler instead of the one that brought about lasting peace?
..
> ANy fool knows it was the reparations that brought Hitler into power.>
..
Quite correct - and those reparations would not have happened without
the approval of President Woodrow Wilson.  After America won WWI, "The
Great Teacher" cut a deal with the French - in exchange for their
sup****t in Wilson's budding "League of Nations," America would rubber
stamp the evil Treaty of Versailles, bug out of Europe, and leave
those countries to handle their own affairs.  The brutal French
quickly reduced Germany to third world status and created a fertile
breeding ground for Adolf Hitler.

Unlike modern Democrats, President Truman was not a historical
illiterate nor a fool.  Determined not to repeat Wilson's short
sighted, tragic, blunder, the Haberdasher green lite the Marshal Plan
- which cost far more in today's money than Operation Freedom.  We
still have troops in Europe to this day, the Europeans overwhelmingly
want us to stay, and they've had uninterupted peace with each other
since 1945.

Where would you rather live?  In Germany in 1926, or Germany today?

Would you like to explain why Wilson's approach is superior to
Trumans?

Once all the Germans were warlike and mean.
But that couldn't happen again.
We taught them a lesson in 1918 -
And they've hardly bothered us since then.
                                      Tom Lehrer
                                       "MLF Lullaby"

> It had nothing to do with the presence of US troops.>
..
How could it?  We ran for the high grass after winning the war.  There
were no American troops to stop Hitler.  Why do you demand that we
repeat Wilson's tragic mistake?
..
> Compare for example Vietnam...>
..
We piled onto the last helicopter out of Saigon, which resulted in the
mass executions to people who sup****ted America, and lead directly to
the genocide of millions of Cambodians.  Inspired Saddam and bin Laden
that America could be safely ****ed with, too.

And you feel that this is a good thing because ....?

>... and Korea.>

We've had troops there for almost 60 years.  No genocide in South
Korea.  North Korea, OTOH, is the sort of place that Orwell would have
examined in horror and whispered "I didn't make "1984" evil enough.

Your plan has been tried again and again.  It brings genocide and
destruction.  Why do you sup****t it?
 




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What 'War' Was That Idiot Talking about?
lorad <lorad474@[EMAIL  2008-07-22 14:18:47 
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spammer <serebel1@[EMA  2008-07-22 19:13:25 
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"bvallely@[EMAIL PRO  2008-07-22 19:22:18 
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George Grapman <sfgeor  2008-07-22 19:29:46 
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dead kennedy haters <b  2008-07-25 16:40:45 
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