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Re: What 'War' Was That Idiot Talking about?

by Gary DeWaay <dewaay2spikeNOT@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 23, 2008 at 02:31 PM

In article <c36fcad1-2256-4dd7-b1ca-
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>, bvallely@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 dead 
kennedy haters says... 
 

> .
> > >The problem is that even Obama and the New York Times admit that we
> > >won the war.
> .
> > SO we can go home then?
> .
> That was the approach we used after WWI.  By abandoning Germany and
> returning home after the war, we allowed Adolf Hitler to rise to
> power.
> 
> After WWII, having learned our lesson, the United States instituted
> the Marshal Plan which, in today's money, cost trillions.  Thanks to
> that forward looking plan, we know have powerful allies instead of
> powerful enemies.
> 
> So tell me - why do you want to emulate the plan that brought us Adolf
> Hitler instead of the one that brought about lasting peace?
> 
> 


The difference is that with the two Marshall Plan countries, we were 
dealing with countries that both had a strong sense of nationality, and 
both were very sick of war.  Thus it made sense to build them up.

In contrast, the Iraqi's have already been fighting each other for 
thousands of years (and will prolly be fighting each other for another 
thousand) and have more of a tribal mentality than a national 
mentality... there's nothing to build on.  They could give a **** less 
about a strong "Iraq."  The nation is meaningless to them. The Japanese 
people WANTED to rebuild Japan, as well as the Germans.  Thus it made 
sense to rebuild them and make them our allies.  How do you make someone 
want to rebuild something they don't care about?

I read all of this BEFORE we invaded.  Too bad morons like you and the 
neo-cons don't have access to things like the USA Today or something.
 




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lorad <lorad474@[EMAIL  2008-07-22 14:18:47 
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Blubbering Half-Wit McCai  2008-07-22 19:09:24 
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spammer <serebel1@[EMA  2008-07-22 19:13:25 
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"bvallely@[EMAIL PRO  2008-07-22 19:22:18 
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retrogrouch@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-22 19:27:22 
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George Grapman <sfgeor  2008-07-22 19:29:46 
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dead kennedy haters <b  2008-07-25 16:40:45 
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lorad <lorad474@[EMAIL  2008-07-22 20:08:35 
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dead kennedy haters <b  2008-07-22 20:16:39 
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