On Jul 23, 1:31=A0am, James A. Donald <jam...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> James A. Donald:
>
> > > Socialism necessarily results in famine
>
> nob...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > Indeed. Do you also remember the pot bellied children
> > and emanciated walking skeletons that emerged when the
> > Berlin wall fell down?
>
> They don't have famines all the time, but they have
> famines some of the time, and disturbingly poor quality
> food most of the time.
>
> Further, international progressives are reluctant to say
> "famine" unless commies are dropping like flies. =A0I
> recall when Cubans had adequate calories, but multiple
> nutritional deficiencies was causing an epidemic of
> blindness, and one could not hear anyone doubt that in
> Cuba, poverty did not oppress.
>
> > Wouldn't be better to ask people who experienced both
> > capitalism and socialism, i.e. the citizens of former
> > USSR and other socialist countries? Do they love
> > capitalism and democracy they have now, or do they
> > want the USSR back?
>
> There is not one party in the USSR which will run on the
> program of putting things wholly back to the old
> economic order. =A0There are some parties that promise to
> put somethings back the way they were, while somehow
> preserving the benefits of the new capitalism, but
> anyone who stood on a platform of restoring the old
> economic order, lock stock and barrel, would be treated
> as simply evil and insane. =A0Even the communist party is
> not communist, but is proposing some kind of moderated
> market order, that will not be the way things were.
>
> --
> =A0 ----------------------
> We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
> of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
> right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
>
> http://www.jim.com/=A0
=A0 =A0James A. Donald
You are talking about a world you don't understand. Talk to people
who lived it as somebody suggests here. Who lived in both worlds. y
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