Re: Second Amendment:"Iran has the right to develop Nuclear Weapons"

"robw" <noddy093@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> So a culture's philosophy has an effect on what weapons they get to
> posses? 
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> "Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost471-newsgroups@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> lorad <lorad474@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > On Jul 11, 9:59 am, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Gray Ghost)
>> > wrote: 
>> >> lorad <lorad...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> > On Jul 11, 9:35 am, Bill Smith <quand...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> >> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:33:01 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus
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>> >> >> <jkraus_1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> >> >"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a
>> >> >> >free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall
>> >> >> >not be infringed." 
>> >>
>> >> >> >Second Amendment to the United States Constitution
>> >>
>> >> >> >Can there be any question that freedom loving Americans,
>> >> >> >everywhere, must sup****t the right of the democratically elected
>> >> >> >Iranian government to develop nuclear weapons? Can there be any
>> >> >> >question that the Supreme Court of the United States would vote
>> >> >> >to sup****t this right of the Iranian people and government to
>> >> >> >maintain the freedom of their nation against foreign invasion?
>> >> >> >Can there be any doubt that the NRA, American survivalists,
>> >> >> >libertarians, and good 
>> >> >> > American Christians -- with their love of freedom and
individual
>> >> >> >liberty -- are, even as we speak, gathering funds to sup****t the
>> >> >> >development of nuclear weapons in Iran, and sending them on to
>> >> >> >the goverment of Iran with their love, and kind wishes?
>> >>
>> >> >> >I hardly think so.
>> >>
>> >> >> >Anything else, would be hypocrisy.
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>> >> >> Iran is a signatory to the Nuclear non proliferation treaty and
>> >> >> should be held to the agreement they made.
>> >>
>> >> > Yes. And so let us know when it is out-of-compliance.
>> >>
>> >> Shall that be when the first missiles are falling on Israel the
>> >> mushrooms bloom over the Middle East? Becasue Israel has nukes and
>> >> has made it clear that if she is attacked in this manner she will
>> >> take a lot of people with her. 
>> >
>> > In that case it would seem that Israel is the only possible nuclear
>> > aggressor in the Middle East.
>> > Because Istael is the only possessor of nuclear weapons in the Middle
>> > East.
>> >
>> >> Since the Iranians have threaten to wipe out Israel regularly
>> >
>> > That's a lie. They have not.
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>> Do you actually read the news or just look at the pretty pictures?
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>> http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%
>> 2FShowFull&cid=1164881801325
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http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=060716084403.euo0z5mi&show_article
> =1 
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>> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40045
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>> http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/12/ahmadinejad-threatens-israel-
>> with.html Ahmadinejad Threatens Israel With Extinction at Holocaust
>> Summit 
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>> http://www.themiddleeastnow.com/news/iranthreat.html
>> Ahamadanejad Threatens Israel Again
>>
>> http://www.electiongeek.com/blog/2008/06/02/iran-scuffle-continues-as-
>> ahmadinejad-threatens-israel/ 
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>> Today President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad suggested once again that the end
of
>> Israel was coming.
>>
>> “I must announce that the Zionist regime (Israel), with a 60-year
record
>> of genocide, plunder, invasion and betrayal is about to die and will
>> soon be erased from the geographical scene,” he said.
>>
>> “Today, the time for the fall of the satanic power of the United States
>> has come and the countdown to the annihilation of the emperor of power
>> and wealth has started.”
>>
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>> >
>> >> and most
>> >> rational people beleive they are indeed working very dilligently to
>> >> produce one or more nucleasr devices
>> >
>> > Another lie. The months old US National Intelligence Summary said
that
>> > Iran is NOT pursuing a weapons program.
>>
>> Well since your cred is shot, why should I accept your word? The news
>> says otherwise. 
>>
>> US National Intelligence Summary was politicized, what you heard is not
>> what is in the details.
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>> >
>> >> and given that it is now clear they have the
>> >> means to deliver such a device with an IRBM exactly what would you
>> >> need to constitute proof. 
>> >
>> > Something other than your parochial likudnik attestations, at least.
>>
>> How about the up to 9 test IRBMs they launched this week
>> Video
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article4301278.ece
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7498214.stm
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>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080710/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_missiles
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>> >
>> >> Especailly if Mutually Assured Destruction doesn't appear to be a
>> >> factor here. 
>> >
>> > And why wouldn't MAD apply?
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Because an essential fact of the Muslim religion is that to die while
>> doing Allah's work is the sure way to heaven. MAD worked with the
>> Russians becasue they were rational. How does MAD work with people that
>> do suicide bombings and use children and mentally retarded women as
bomb
>> carriers? 
>>
>> You really ain';t to bright OR politics matters more than reality.
>>
>> Frank
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Yes if you make war on your neighbors you are prohibited to have offensive

weapons. Of course then it is the responsibility of the winner to protect
the 
them until they can stand on thier own feet. Ergo NATO and SEATO provided 
security for the defeated nations of WWII. 

But that's only among the civilized.

Frank