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Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?

by David Friedman <ddfr@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 24, 2008 at 07:55 AM

In article 
<holman-2407081057100001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 holman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Eugene Holman) wrote:

> In article
> <ddfr-625DA6.20304223072008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, David
> Friedman <ddfr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> > Someone wrote:
> > 
> > > > > Wouldn't be better to ask people who experienced both
> > > > > capitalism and socialism, i.e. the citizens of former
> > > > > USSR and other socialist countries? Do they love
> > > > > capitalism and democracy they have now, or do they
> > > > > want the USSR back?
> > 
> > I don't think people who live in the former USSR have yet experienced 
> > capitalism.
> > 
> > Perhaps you should put the question to people in Estonia or the Czech 
> > Republic.
> 
> You are a bit confused.
> 
> Estonia is part of the former USSR, although it is not, technically
> speaking, a successor state but rather one that was under Soviet
> occupation.

Correct--I spoke imprecisely. I was thinking of the contrast between 
parts of the former USSR and its satellites that had, and 
those--including Russia proper--that had not, made the transition to an 
economy no less capitalist than the western European or U.S. economies.

> In Russia proper, at least the large urban centers such as St.
Petersburg,
> Moscow, Nizhny Novgorod, Novosibersk, and Vladivostok, are booming
centers
> of industrial-strength robber-baron-type capitalism. If you enter Russia
> through Finland, more than fifty kilometers from the border you see the
> trucks loaded with Jaguars, BMWs, Mercedes-Benz's, and other luxury
> automobiles, the same ones that have made the eight-lane Nevsky
Prospect,
> the main street in St. Peterburg, a case of 24/7 gridlock. The formerly
> shabby border city of Vyborg shows clear signs that the money spreading
> from St. Petersburg is beginning to have an impact on it.

I don't think capitalism is defined by the im****t of luxury automobiles.

-- 
 http://www.daviddfriedman.com/
http://daviddfriedman.blogspot.com/
 Author of _Harald_, a fantasy without magic.
 Published by Baen, in bookstores now
 




 13 Posts in Topic:
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
Yukon <Loyza3@[EMAIL P  2008-07-23 16:59:28 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
James A. Donald <james  2008-07-24 13:30:35 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-07-23 20:30:42 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
holman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-24 10:57:10 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-07-24 07:55:56 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
holman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-24 18:31:17 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
James A. Donald <james  2008-07-25 18:20:36 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
holman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-25 14:55:55 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
James A. Donald <james  2008-07-26 16:53:50 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-07-25 11:08:24 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
Bert Hyman <bert@[EMAI  2008-07-25 18:13:17 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
Vladimir Makarenko <vm  2008-07-25 15:56:45 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
Mr Bungle 34 <michael_  2008-07-26 00:01:44 

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