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Re: Is the Pickens Plan sound?

by "OneTwoThree" <youare@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 25, 2008 at 06:52 AM

"David Moffitt" <dmoffitt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:-budnc9l1sdjyRTVnZ2dnUVZ_rjinZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:bgji84tsfpigvd6fk9gnjct09qn190akmi@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | This is OneTwoThree's brain on drugs:
> | >Dude - both cities are on the Pacific Gas and Electric grid, and
> therefore
> | >their electricity comes from whatever sources PG&E uses - nuclear,
> natural
> | >gas and hydro -
> |
> | Yup.
> |
> | >with less and less hydro as a percentage of the electricty
> | >produced., due to global warming. (Actually due to the long drought 
> here
> in
> | >the west, but the leftbots say global warming)
> |
> | The percentage of energy contributed by hydro is growing smaller
> | because demand keeps rising but we aren't building any new hydro power
> | plants.  But I forget, you're in the west, things are different there.
> | Georgia broke a forty year record for drought last year.  We've gotten
> | a few more storm fronts this year and lots of pop ups, but it's not
> | the sort of long, steady rain the reservoirs and water tables need.
> | It's been a long time since I've seen a natural spring.
> |
> | >Real tough for anyone to say their electricity is ALL from hydro -
once
> its
> | >on the grid you have no choice.
> |
> | The way it works is that if you sell electricity to somebody 300 miles
> | from your plant, you put that amount onto the grid and it's delivered
> | at the other end but by somebody else.  If your generating company
> | can't get orders for juice on the grid, you don't generate and aren't
> | profitable.  Otoh, if the plant you bought electricity from goes down,
> | the clients 300 miles away won't notice because their actual power
> | source is local.
>
> %%%% I find it hillarious around here that the dirt people are
complaining
> about a coal fired TVA power plant dumping pollution into the air when
in
> the 70's and early 80's they shut down the building of a TVA nuclear
power
> plant and a TVA hydro plant that would have replaced the polluting coal
> plant!

I'm find it purely amazing that there are many leftbots out there who are 
now saying that liberals never opposed exapnding electrical generation 
resources.

out here in Calif, the left opposed nuclear and new dams for hydro dating 
back to the 70's that I know about. The utilities had no choice but to
build 
natural gas fueled generation plants to meet the ever increasing demand, 
cause mostly by liberals migrating into California.

back in the 70's the libs were saying that we should not burn oil, whe 
should convert all automobiles to natural gas becasue it is "clean"

now all that extra CO2 is in theair, and what do the liberals complain 
about? CO2 caused global warming!

sigh... against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain




>
> "This just in: At 7:52 EDT this morning, "I have a social conscience"
was
> offically replaced as the catch-phrase of the self-righteous moral
> superiority with the even-more ambiguous..."I'm going Green..." --
Mallard
> Fillmore, May 9, 2007
>
>
> |
> | Swill
> | -- 
> | No, his mind is not for rent
> | To any God or government.
> | Always hopeful, yet discontent,
> | He knows changes arent permanent,
> | But change is.
> | http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
>
>
 




 17 Posts in Topic:
Is the Pickens Plan sound?
Major Debacle <Major_D  2008-07-23 11:00:30 
Re: Is the Pickens Plan sound?
"OneTwoThree" &  2008-07-23 11:59:54 
Re: Is the Pickens Plan sound?
presidentbyamendment <  2008-07-23 14:17:50 
Re: Is the Pickens Plan sound?
Major Debacle <Major_D  2008-07-23 14:59:19 
Re: Is the Pickens Plan sound?
"OneTwoThree" &  2008-07-23 23:07:30 
Re: Is the Pickens Plan sound?
Governor Swill <govern  2008-07-25 00:09:24 
Re: Is the Pickens Plan sound?
"David Moffitt"  2008-07-24 23:22:20 
Re: Is the Pickens Plan sound?
"OneTwoThree" &  2008-07-25 06:52:18 
Re: Is the Pickens Plan sound?
"Justin Case" &  2008-07-23 21:24:01 
Re: Is the Pickens Plan sound?
Major Debacle <Major_D  2008-07-23 18:58:46 
Re: Is the Pickens Plan sound?
"OneTwoThree" &  2008-07-23 23:23:22 
Re: Is the Pickens Plan sound?
"Bill Bonde { ''Mr G  2008-07-31 07:42:02 
Re: Is the Pickens Plan sound?
Blattus Slafaly <boobo  2008-07-31 08:05:45 
Re: Is the Pickens Plan sound?
"Bill Bonde { ''Mr G  2008-07-31 17:23:36 
Re: Is the Pickens Plan sound?
"Bill Bonde { ''Mr G  2008-07-23 23:54:28 
Re: Is the Pickens Plan sound?
orionca@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-23 16:58:30 
Re: Is the Pickens Plan sound?
Major Debacle <Major_D  2008-07-23 19:02:30 

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