"TheFan(o)(o)" <thefan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Mitchell Holman <ta2eneNo*Email@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> greccogirl <greccogirl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
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>>> 1545 Dead wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 04:11:03 GMT, greccogirl <greccogirl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>1543 Dead wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 02:57:46 GMT, greccogirl <greccogirl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1543 Dead wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 00:43:18 GMT, greccogirl
> <greccogirl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>gjohns01@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Liberals,HATE-America.,' wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Chalk up another victim to the bloodthirsty liberals and their
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>culture of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>death. Terri Schiavo has been starved to death.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>1500 babies being slaughtered per day just isn't enough for
> these
>>>>>>>>>>>bloodthirsty killers. Poor Terri. She just didn't fit the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>bloodthirsty
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>liberals idea of a human being who would be allowed to live.
> She
>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>brain
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>damaged, not dead. She slept, woke and smiled. She was not
> sick,
>>>>>>>>>>>She
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>physically healthy and all her organs worked. She needed no
> life
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>sup****t.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>She only needed help being fed just as many who are paralyzed
> or
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>severely
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>retarded. I guess the bloodthirsty liberals will go after them
>>>>>>>>>>>next.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>After
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>all, they are just a drain on society and serve no purpose.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hitler is smiling in Hell. Liberals have done him proud.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>>Liberals are EVERYTHING they accuse the right of being.
>>>>>>>>>>>They are mean, vicious, hateful, greedy, cold-hearted,
>>>>>>>>>>>closed-minded, selfish, intolerant, bigoted and racist.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Very amusing. Conservatives love going to war against nations
> that
>>>>>>>>>>never threaten us, celebrate the killing of tens of thousands
> of
>>>>>>>>>>innocent civilians in the process. Conservatives love the
>>>>>>>>>>executions of the brain-damaged and minors. Conservatives want
> to
>>>>>>>>>>ignore the body-bags of our best and brightest coming back from
>>>>>>>>>>their useless wars.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And yet this Republican still thinks he can lecture us because
> we
>>>>>>>>>>didn't want to stand in the way of the wishes of hopelessly
>>>>>>>>>>brain-damaged woman.
>>>>>>>>>> I got news for you, hypocrits like yourself will occupy a
> lower
>>>>>>>>>>level of Hell than any of us ever see.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You are so full of crap. There was NO COMPELLING evidence of
> what
>>>>>>>>>Terri wanted. Her husband wanted to kill her and he got away
> with
>>>>>>>>>it in court.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On more than 20 occassions. With more than 30 judges involved.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I bet the coronor's office is in on the conspiracy, too, huh?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Oh it wasn't a conspiracy. In this country you can get away with
>>>>>>>legalized murder, hell you can even get your wife put into a
> hospice
>>>>>>>against Florida law when she isn't terminally ill.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Where else are you gonna put them if there is no hope of recovery?
>>>>>>Schiavo's parents tried that, back in 1993. They gave up after six
>>>>>>months. Returned her to the hospice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hell, you can even kill someone against their wishes WHEN THEY SAY
>>>>>>>diferrently themselves:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.internationaltaskforce.org/mm.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I notice that the man is not PVS, and in fact is very clearly
>>>>>>conscious and aware of his surroundings, is able to communicate
>>>>>>through a computer, He indicates that he is happy and wants to
> live.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Under those cir***stances, nobody in their right mind would
> advocate
>>>>>>removing his sup****t. That wife sounds like one seriously crazy
> ****.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>As previously re****ted in the Update (5-6/93), the case of
>>>>>>>41-year-old Michael Martin, severely disabled as the result of a
> 1987
>>>>>>>car-train accident, is currently before the Michigan Court of
>>>>>>>Appeals. Michael, who experts say is not in a persistent
> vegetative
>>>>>>>state, has indicated that he wants to live. His wife and current
>>>>>>>legal guardian, Mary Martin, petitioned a Michigan Probate Court
> to
>>>>>>>have Michael's gastrostomy tube feeding stopped, claiming that
>>>>>>>Michael had made statements prior to the accident indicating that
> he
>>>>>>>would not want to live as a "vegetable."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But 2 of Michael's co-workers, who were present at the time
> Michael
>>>>>>>made those statements, testified that his present condition is not
>>>>>>>the type Michael referred to in those statements. Probate Judge
>>>>>>>George Greig rejected Mary Martin's request to have Michael
> starved
>>>>>>>and dehydrated to death because Michael's pre-accident statements
>>>>>>>were not in writing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The judge would have granted the request if Michael were
> terminally
>>>>>>>ill or unconscious. The fact that Michael indicated that he wanted
> to
>>>>>>>live was ruled irrelevant by the judge because of Michael's
> "impaired
>>>>>>>condition." The judge also refused to give legal standing to
>>>>>>>Michael's mother and sister, who were attempting to remove his
> wife
>>>>>>>as legal guardian.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Understand???? They were going to starve this man to death even
>>>>>>>though he HIMSELF COMMUNICATED LEAVE ME ALONE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So let's not talk about conspiracy. It isn't needed in America
> when
>>>>>>>it comes to pulling people's feeding tubes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You're saying "if x, y, and z were not the case, then this might
> have
>>>>>>happened. " That makes no sense at all, since x, y, and z were the
>>>>>>case, and the reason your supposition did not happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don't you GET it? The judge said he would have granted the wife's
>>>>>
>>>>>request had Michael been "unconscious". HIS LIVING WILL SAID he
> wanted
>>>>>to live, but the judge wouldn't have followed it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually, the judge said he would if had Michael been PSV or
>>>> "non-responsive". The judge went and interviewed Michael himself
> (an
>>>> unedited copy of the proceedings is available at
>>>> http://bhs.msu.edu/martin.htm
and determined that no grounds existed
>>>> for withdrawal of the feeding tube. The Court of Appeals back the
>>>> judge on this, as did the state high court.
>>>>
>>>> The testimony is clear that Michael often said he didn't want to be
>>>> kept alive if he was totally incapacitated and dependent on others.
>>>> That's what his wife was basing her petitions on, but Michael
> himself
>>>> is indicating that he no longer feels that he should be terminated
>>>> because of his condition. While his cognitive abilities are in
> doubt,
>>>> the court must assume the validity of his wishes.
>>>>
>>>> I don't see anything to fault the court on. You're basing your
>>>> outrage on a hypothetical remark a judge made, even though the judge
>>>> found otherwise and ruled exactly the way you would have wanted him
>>>> to.
>>>
>>> So tell me why this even had to go to court? Why it went to the
> SUPREME
>>> court in that state? Michael's feelings didn't "change". He wasn't
>>> "totally incapacitated". That is the entire point.
>>>
>>> So if you feel that the courts are correct and everyone should have
>>> "choice" (I love that liberal buzz word)
>>
>>
>> According to the Florida Family Code the spouse
>> has final say in cases like ****avo's. You DO believe
>> in following the law, don't you?
>>
>>
>>
> i havent seen these right wingers follow a law yet TF
And I haven't seen the Democrats win a race for control of the House since
1992!
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