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>http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.com....
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>>> > Re****t: Microsoft says open source violates 235 patents
>>> > Top Microsoft lawyer alleges in a magazine interview that the Linux
>>> > kernel
>>> > and OpenOffice.org violate hundreds of the company's patents.
>>> > By Ina Friedand Stephen Shankland
>>> > Staff Writer, CNET News.com
>>> > Published: May 13, 2007, 7:35 PM PDT
>>> > Last modified: May 13, 2007, 8:30 PM PDT
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>>> > Re****t: Microsoft says open source violates 235 patents
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>>> > update Microsoft claims that free and open-source software violates
>>> > 235 of
>>> > its patents, according to a magazine re****t published Sunday.
>>>
>>> > In an interview with Fortune, Microsoft top lawyer Brad Smith
alleges
>>> > that
>>> > the Linux kernel violates 42 Microsoft patents, while its user
>>> > interface
>>> > and other design elements infringe on a further 65. OpenOffice.org
is
>>> > accused of infringing 45, along with 83 more in other free and
>>> > open-source
>>> > programs, according to Fortune.
>>>
>>> > It is not entirely clear how Microsoft might proceed in enforcing
>>> > these
>>> > patents, but the company has been encouraging large tech companies
>>> > that
>>> > depend on Linux to ink patent deals, starting with its controversial
>>> > pact
>>> > with Novell last November. Microsoft has also cited Linux protection
>>> > playing a role in recent patent swap deals with Samsung and Fuji
>>> > Xerox.
>>> > Microsoft has also had discussions but not reached a deal with Red
>>> > Hat, as
>>> > noted in the Fortune article.
>>>
>>> > Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer is also quoted in the article as saying
>>> > Microsoft's open-source competitors need to "play by the same rules
as
>>> > the
>>> > rest of the business."
>>>
>>> > "What's fair is fair," Ballmer told Fortune. "We live in a world
where
>>> > we
>>> > honor, and sup****t the honoring of, intellectual property."
>>>
>>> > The story notes that some big tech proponents of open source have
been
>>> > stockpiling intellectual property as part of the Open Invention
>>> > Network,
>>> > set up in 2005 by folks like Sony, Red Hat, IBM, NEC and Philips.
The
>>> > article surmises that if Microsoft were to go after open source,
these
>>> > companies' combined know-how might give it some patent weapons to go
>>> > after
>>> > Windows.
>>>
>>> > A Microsoft representative did not immediately respond to an e-mail
>>> > seeking comment.
>>>
>>> > Given how deeply entrenched open-source software has become in the
>>> > computing industry, taking direct legal action against the
open-source
>>> > realm would be a complicated, hackle-raising undertaking for
>>> > Microsoft.
>>> > Customers use open-source software widely, and many major computing
>>> > companies--IBM, Dell, Sun Microsystems, Hewlett-Packard, Motorola
and
>>> > Oracle, for example--sup****t Linux work directly.
>>>
>>> > It's not the first time that open-source patent concerns have
arisen.
>>> > A
>>> > 2004 study by a Open Source Risk Management, a company selling
>>> > insurance
>>> > against risks of using open-source software, concluded that Linux
>>> > could
>>> > violate at least 283 patents, 27 of them Microsoft patents.
>>>
>>> > Patents and the open-source movement get along awkwardly at best.
>>> > Patent
>>> > law gives proprietary, exclusive rights to patent holders, but
>>> > open-source
>>> > programming is built on the idea of free sharing. Newer open-source
>>> > licenses sometimes address the issue by requiring contributors to
>>> > open-source projects to grant users and developers of the software a
>>> > perpetual, royalty-free license to any patents that relate to the
>>> > contribution.
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>>> > Different companies have dealt in different ways with the
open-source
>>> > patent conundrum. For example, HP has taken a pro-patent stance,
while
>>> > IBM, Nokia, Sun and others have granted some rights to use some of
>>> > their
>>> > patents in open-source software.
>>>
>>> > The Open Invention Network remains a relatively young effort, but it
>>> > has
>>> > attracted participation this year from proprietary software giant
>>> > Oracle
>>> > and from Linux sup****t seller Canonical. A company may license the
>>> > network's patents for free as long as they promise not to assert any
>>> > patent claims against those involved in the "Linux environment."
>>>
>>> > The Free Software Foundation is working on a new draft of the
General
>>> > Public License, one element of which will ban partner****ps such as
the
>>> > one
>>> > struck by Novell and Microsoft.
>>>
>>> The Linux geeks love to bash MSFT. Yet they love to copy the features
>>> and
>>> funtionality of MSFT products. They only wish they had a product half
>>> as
>>> powerful and feature rich as MSFT has. The Linux geeks are nothing
but
>>> a
>>> bunch of thieves intent on destroying the rights of intellectual
>>> property
>>> owners.
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>> Um.... do you know where MS got its original OS's from?
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>> Do you know where Internet Explorer came from?
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>> Do you know why MS Word, STILL a functionally inferior product to
>> Wordperfect, is the most popular word processor in the world?
>>
>> MS hasn't had an original idea during their entire existence, and
>> their marketing strategy revolves around predatory capitalism.
>>
>> OpenOffice has been around since 2000, and they're just NOW claiming
>> that they're "stealing" code for basic functionality?
>>
>> Good luck with that...
>>
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> You really shouldn't lecture me about MSFT. I spent the whole decade of
> the 1990's working for MSFT in the sales & marketing division. I didn't
> live Microsoft history, I made it. Get a reality check. Your facts are
> laughable and dated.
What's really "laughable" here is your horribly swollen attempts at
grandiosity, ****ll.
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