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>http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.com....
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>>>> > Re****t: Microsoft says open source violates 235 patents
>>>> > Top Microsoft lawyer alleges in a magazine interview that the Linux
>>>> > kernel
>>>> > and OpenOffice.org violate hundreds of the company's patents.
>>>> > By Ina Friedand Stephen Shankland
>>>> > Staff Writer, CNET News.com
>>>> > Published: May 13, 2007, 7:35 PM PDT
>>>> > Last modified: May 13, 2007, 8:30 PM PDT
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>>>> > Re****t: Microsoft says open source violates 235 patents
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>>>> > update Microsoft claims that free and open-source software violates
>>>> > 235 of
>>>> > its patents, according to a magazine re****t published Sunday.
>>>>
>>>> > In an interview with Fortune, Microsoft top lawyer Brad Smith
alleges
>>>> > that
>>>> > the Linux kernel violates 42 Microsoft patents, while its user
>>>> > interface
>>>> > and other design elements infringe on a further 65. OpenOffice.org
is
>>>> > accused of infringing 45, along with 83 more in other free and
>>>> > open-source
>>>> > programs, according to Fortune.
>>>>
>>>> > It is not entirely clear how Microsoft might proceed in enforcing
>>>> > these
>>>> > patents, but the company has been encouraging large tech companies
>>>> > that
>>>> > depend on Linux to ink patent deals, starting with its
controversial
>>>> > pact
>>>> > with Novell last November. Microsoft has also cited Linux
protection
>>>> > playing a role in recent patent swap deals with Samsung and Fuji
>>>> > Xerox.
>>>> > Microsoft has also had discussions but not reached a deal with Red
>>>> > Hat, as
>>>> > noted in the Fortune article.
>>>>
>>>> > Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer is also quoted in the article as saying
>>>> > Microsoft's open-source competitors need to "play by the same rules
>>>> > as the
>>>> > rest of the business."
>>>>
>>>> > "What's fair is fair," Ballmer told Fortune. "We live in a world
>>>> > where we
>>>> > honor, and sup****t the honoring of, intellectual property."
>>>>
>>>> > The story notes that some big tech proponents of open source have
>>>> > been
>>>> > stockpiling intellectual property as part of the Open Invention
>>>> > Network,
>>>> > set up in 2005 by folks like Sony, Red Hat, IBM, NEC and Philips.
The
>>>> > article surmises that if Microsoft were to go after open source,
>>>> > these
>>>> > companies' combined know-how might give it some patent weapons to
go
>>>> > after
>>>> > Windows.
>>>>
>>>> > A Microsoft representative did not immediately respond to an e-mail
>>>> > seeking comment.
>>>>
>>>> > Given how deeply entrenched open-source software has become in the
>>>> > computing industry, taking direct legal action against the
>>>> > open-source
>>>> > realm would be a complicated, hackle-raising undertaking for
>>>> > Microsoft.
>>>> > Customers use open-source software widely, and many major computing
>>>> > companies--IBM, Dell, Sun Microsystems, Hewlett-Packard, Motorola
and
>>>> > Oracle, for example--sup****t Linux work directly.
>>>>
>>>> > It's not the first time that open-source patent concerns have
arisen.
>>>> > A
>>>> > 2004 study by a Open Source Risk Management, a company selling
>>>> > insurance
>>>> > against risks of using open-source software, concluded that Linux
>>>> > could
>>>> > violate at least 283 patents, 27 of them Microsoft patents.
>>>>
>>>> > Patents and the open-source movement get along awkwardly at best.
>>>> > Patent
>>>> > law gives proprietary, exclusive rights to patent holders, but
>>>> > open-source
>>>> > programming is built on the idea of free sharing. Newer open-source
>>>> > licenses sometimes address the issue by requiring contributors to
>>>> > open-source projects to grant users and developers of the software
a
>>>> > perpetual, royalty-free license to any patents that relate to the
>>>> > contribution.
>>>> > Now on News.com
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>>>> > Different companies have dealt in different ways with the
open-source
>>>> > patent conundrum. For example, HP has taken a pro-patent stance,
>>>> > while
>>>> > IBM, Nokia, Sun and others have granted some rights to use some of
>>>> > their
>>>> > patents in open-source software.
>>>>
>>>> > The Open Invention Network remains a relatively young effort, but
it
>>>> > has
>>>> > attracted participation this year from proprietary software giant
>>>> > Oracle
>>>> > and from Linux sup****t seller Canonical. A company may license the
>>>> > network's patents for free as long as they promise not to assert
any
>>>> > patent claims against those involved in the "Linux environment."
>>>>
>>>> > The Free Software Foundation is working on a new draft of the
General
>>>> > Public License, one element of which will ban partner****ps such as
>>>> > the one
>>>> > struck by Novell and Microsoft.
>>>>
>>>> The Linux geeks love to bash MSFT. Yet they love to copy the
features
>>>> and
>>>> funtionality of MSFT products. They only wish they had a product
half
>>>> as
>>>> powerful and feature rich as MSFT has. The Linux geeks are nothing
but
>>>> a
>>>> bunch of thieves intent on destroying the rights of intellectual
>>>> property
>>>> owners.
>>>
>>> Um.... do you know where MS got its original OS's from?
>>>
>>> Do you know where Internet Explorer came from?
>>>
>>> Do you know why MS Word, STILL a functionally inferior product to
>>> Wordperfect, is the most popular word processor in the world?
>>>
>>> MS hasn't had an original idea during their entire existence, and
>>> their marketing strategy revolves around predatory capitalism.
>>>
>>> OpenOffice has been around since 2000, and they're just NOW claiming
>>> that they're "stealing" code for basic functionality?
>>>
>>> Good luck with that...
>>>
>>
>> You really shouldn't lecture me about MSFT. I spent the whole decade
of
>> the 1990's working for MSFT in the sales & marketing division. I
didn't
>> live Microsoft history, I made it. Get a reality check. Your facts are
>> laughable and dated.
>
> What's really "laughable" here is your horribly swollen attempts at
> grandiosity, ****ll.
>
>>
****ing interloper, fraud, charlatan, liar, ****ll. Go ahead, post the
last
word here ===>>>
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