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>http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.com....
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>>>>> > Re****t: Microsoft says open source violates 235 patents
>>>>> > Top Microsoft lawyer alleges in a magazine interview that the
Linux
>>>>> > kernel
>>>>> > and OpenOffice.org violate hundreds of the company's patents.
>>>>> > By Ina Friedand Stephen Shankland
>>>>> > Staff Writer, CNET News.com
>>>>> > Published: May 13, 2007, 7:35 PM PDT
>>>>> > Last modified: May 13, 2007, 8:30 PM PDT
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>>>>> > Re****t: Microsoft says open source violates 235 patents
>>>>>
>>>>> > update Microsoft claims that free and open-source software
violates
>>>>> > 235 of
>>>>> > its patents, according to a magazine re****t published Sunday.
>>>>>
>>>>> > In an interview with Fortune, Microsoft top lawyer Brad Smith
>>>>> > alleges that
>>>>> > the Linux kernel violates 42 Microsoft patents, while its user
>>>>> > interface
>>>>> > and other design elements infringe on a further 65. OpenOffice.org
>>>>> > is
>>>>> > accused of infringing 45, along with 83 more in other free and
>>>>> > open-source
>>>>> > programs, according to Fortune.
>>>>>
>>>>> > It is not entirely clear how Microsoft might proceed in enforcing
>>>>> > these
>>>>> > patents, but the company has been encouraging large tech companies
>>>>> > that
>>>>> > depend on Linux to ink patent deals, starting with its
controversial
>>>>> > pact
>>>>> > with Novell last November. Microsoft has also cited Linux
protection
>>>>> > playing a role in recent patent swap deals with Samsung and Fuji
>>>>> > Xerox.
>>>>> > Microsoft has also had discussions but not reached a deal with Red
>>>>> > Hat, as
>>>>> > noted in the Fortune article.
>>>>>
>>>>> > Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer is also quoted in the article as
saying
>>>>> > Microsoft's open-source competitors need to "play by the same
rules
>>>>> > as the
>>>>> > rest of the business."
>>>>>
>>>>> > "What's fair is fair," Ballmer told Fortune. "We live in a world
>>>>> > where we
>>>>> > honor, and sup****t the honoring of, intellectual property."
>>>>>
>>>>> > The story notes that some big tech proponents of open source have
>>>>> > been
>>>>> > stockpiling intellectual property as part of the Open Invention
>>>>> > Network,
>>>>> > set up in 2005 by folks like Sony, Red Hat, IBM, NEC and Philips.
>>>>> > The
>>>>> > article surmises that if Microsoft were to go after open source,
>>>>> > these
>>>>> > companies' combined know-how might give it some patent weapons to
go
>>>>> > after
>>>>> > Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> > A Microsoft representative did not immediately respond to an
e-mail
>>>>> > seeking comment.
>>>>>
>>>>> > Given how deeply entrenched open-source software has become in the
>>>>> > computing industry, taking direct legal action against the
>>>>> > open-source
>>>>> > realm would be a complicated, hackle-raising undertaking for
>>>>> > Microsoft.
>>>>> > Customers use open-source software widely, and many major
computing
>>>>> > companies--IBM, Dell, Sun Microsystems, Hewlett-Packard, Motorola
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > Oracle, for example--sup****t Linux work directly.
>>>>>
>>>>> > It's not the first time that open-source patent concerns have
>>>>> > arisen. A
>>>>> > 2004 study by a Open Source Risk Management, a company selling
>>>>> > insurance
>>>>> > against risks of using open-source software, concluded that Linux
>>>>> > could
>>>>> > violate at least 283 patents, 27 of them Microsoft patents.
>>>>>
>>>>> > Patents and the open-source movement get along awkwardly at best.
>>>>> > Patent
>>>>> > law gives proprietary, exclusive rights to patent holders, but
>>>>> > open-source
>>>>> > programming is built on the idea of free sharing. Newer
open-source
>>>>> > licenses sometimes address the issue by requiring contributors to
>>>>> > open-source projects to grant users and developers of the software
a
>>>>> > perpetual, royalty-free license to any patents that relate to the
>>>>> > contribution.
>>>>> > Now on News.com
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>>>>> > Different companies have dealt in different ways with the
>>>>> > open-source
>>>>> > patent conundrum. For example, HP has taken a pro-patent stance,
>>>>> > while
>>>>> > IBM, Nokia, Sun and others have granted some rights to use some of
>>>>> > their
>>>>> > patents in open-source software.
>>>>>
>>>>> > The Open Invention Network remains a relatively young effort, but
it
>>>>> > has
>>>>> > attracted participation this year from proprietary software giant
>>>>> > Oracle
>>>>> > and from Linux sup****t seller Canonical. A company may license the
>>>>> > network's patents for free as long as they promise not to assert
any
>>>>> > patent claims against those involved in the "Linux environment."
>>>>>
>>>>> > The Free Software Foundation is working on a new draft of the
>>>>> > General
>>>>> > Public License, one element of which will ban partner****ps such as
>>>>> > the one
>>>>> > struck by Novell and Microsoft.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Linux geeks love to bash MSFT. Yet they love to copy the
features
>>>>> and
>>>>> funtionality of MSFT products. They only wish they had a product
half
>>>>> as
>>>>> powerful and feature rich as MSFT has. The Linux geeks are nothing
>>>>> but a
>>>>> bunch of thieves intent on destroying the rights of intellectual
>>>>> property
>>>>> owners.
>>>>
>>>> Um.... do you know where MS got its original OS's from?
>>>>
>>>> Do you know where Internet Explorer came from?
>>>>
>>>> Do you know why MS Word, STILL a functionally inferior product to
>>>> Wordperfect, is the most popular word processor in the world?
>>>>
>>>> MS hasn't had an original idea during their entire existence, and
>>>> their marketing strategy revolves around predatory capitalism.
>>>>
>>>> OpenOffice has been around since 2000, and they're just NOW claiming
>>>> that they're "stealing" code for basic functionality?
>>>>
>>>> Good luck with that...
>>>>
>>>
>>> You really shouldn't lecture me about MSFT. I spent the whole decade
of
>>> the 1990's working for MSFT in the sales & marketing division. I
didn't
>>> live Microsoft history, I made it. Get a reality check. Your facts
are
>>> laughable and dated.
>>
>> What's really "laughable" here is your horribly swollen attempts at
>> grandiosity, ****ll.
>>
>>>
>
> ****ing interloper, fraud, charlatan, liar, ****ll.
Run out of your medicine, ****ll?
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