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>>>>>> > Re****t: Microsoft says open source violates 235 patents
>>>>>> > Top Microsoft lawyer alleges in a magazine interview that the
Linux
>>>>>> > kernel
>>>>>> > and OpenOffice.org violate hundreds of the company's patents.
>>>>>> > By Ina Friedand Stephen Shankland
>>>>>> > Staff Writer, CNET News.com
>>>>>> > Published: May 13, 2007, 7:35 PM PDT
>>>>>> > Last modified: May 13, 2007, 8:30 PM PDT
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>>>>>> > Re****t: Microsoft says open source violates 235 patents
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>>>>>> > update Microsoft claims that free and open-source software
violates
>>>>>> > 235 of
>>>>>> > its patents, according to a magazine re****t published Sunday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > In an interview with Fortune, Microsoft top lawyer Brad Smith
>>>>>> > alleges that
>>>>>> > the Linux kernel violates 42 Microsoft patents, while its user
>>>>>> > interface
>>>>>> > and other design elements infringe on a further 65.
OpenOffice.org
>>>>>> > is
>>>>>> > accused of infringing 45, along with 83 more in other free and
>>>>>> > open-source
>>>>>> > programs, according to Fortune.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > It is not entirely clear how Microsoft might proceed in enforcing
>>>>>> > these
>>>>>> > patents, but the company has been encouraging large tech
companies
>>>>>> > that
>>>>>> > depend on Linux to ink patent deals, starting with its
>>>>>> > controversial pact
>>>>>> > with Novell last November. Microsoft has also cited Linux
>>>>>> > protection
>>>>>> > playing a role in recent patent swap deals with Samsung and Fuji
>>>>>> > Xerox.
>>>>>> > Microsoft has also had discussions but not reached a deal with
Red
>>>>>> > Hat, as
>>>>>> > noted in the Fortune article.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer is also quoted in the article as
saying
>>>>>> > Microsoft's open-source competitors need to "play by the same
rules
>>>>>> > as the
>>>>>> > rest of the business."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > "What's fair is fair," Ballmer told Fortune. "We live in a world
>>>>>> > where we
>>>>>> > honor, and sup****t the honoring of, intellectual property."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > The story notes that some big tech proponents of open source have
>>>>>> > been
>>>>>> > stockpiling intellectual property as part of the Open Invention
>>>>>> > Network,
>>>>>> > set up in 2005 by folks like Sony, Red Hat, IBM, NEC and Philips.
>>>>>> > The
>>>>>> > article surmises that if Microsoft were to go after open source,
>>>>>> > these
>>>>>> > companies' combined know-how might give it some patent weapons to
>>>>>> > go after
>>>>>> > Windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > A Microsoft representative did not immediately respond to an
e-mail
>>>>>> > seeking comment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Given how deeply entrenched open-source software has become in
the
>>>>>> > computing industry, taking direct legal action against the
>>>>>> > open-source
>>>>>> > realm would be a complicated, hackle-raising undertaking for
>>>>>> > Microsoft.
>>>>>> > Customers use open-source software widely, and many major
computing
>>>>>> > companies--IBM, Dell, Sun Microsystems, Hewlett-Packard, Motorola
>>>>>> > and
>>>>>> > Oracle, for example--sup****t Linux work directly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > It's not the first time that open-source patent concerns have
>>>>>> > arisen. A
>>>>>> > 2004 study by a Open Source Risk Management, a company selling
>>>>>> > insurance
>>>>>> > against risks of using open-source software, concluded that Linux
>>>>>> > could
>>>>>> > violate at least 283 patents, 27 of them Microsoft patents.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Patents and the open-source movement get along awkwardly at best.
>>>>>> > Patent
>>>>>> > law gives proprietary, exclusive rights to patent holders, but
>>>>>> > open-source
>>>>>> > programming is built on the idea of free sharing. Newer
open-source
>>>>>> > licenses sometimes address the issue by requiring contributors to
>>>>>> > open-source projects to grant users and developers of the
software
>>>>>> > a
>>>>>> > perpetual, royalty-free license to any patents that relate to the
>>>>>> > contribution.
>>>>>> > Now on News.com
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>>>>>> > Different companies have dealt in different ways with the
>>>>>> > open-source
>>>>>> > patent conundrum. For example, HP has taken a pro-patent stance,
>>>>>> > while
>>>>>> > IBM, Nokia, Sun and others have granted some rights to use some
of
>>>>>> > their
>>>>>> > patents in open-source software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > The Open Invention Network remains a relatively young effort, but
>>>>>> > it has
>>>>>> > attracted participation this year from proprietary software giant
>>>>>> > Oracle
>>>>>> > and from Linux sup****t seller Canonical. A company may license
the
>>>>>> > network's patents for free as long as they promise not to assert
>>>>>> > any
>>>>>> > patent claims against those involved in the "Linux environment."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > The Free Software Foundation is working on a new draft of the
>>>>>> > General
>>>>>> > Public License, one element of which will ban partner****ps such
as
>>>>>> > the one
>>>>>> > struck by Novell and Microsoft.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Linux geeks love to bash MSFT. Yet they love to copy the
>>>>>> features and
>>>>>> funtionality of MSFT products. They only wish they had a product
>>>>>> half as
>>>>>> powerful and feature rich as MSFT has. The Linux geeks are nothing
>>>>>> but a
>>>>>> bunch of thieves intent on destroying the rights of intellectual
>>>>>> property
>>>>>> owners.
>>>>>
>>>>> Um.... do you know where MS got its original OS's from?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you know where Internet Explorer came from?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you know why MS Word, STILL a functionally inferior product to
>>>>> Wordperfect, is the most popular word processor in the world?
>>>>>
>>>>> MS hasn't had an original idea during their entire existence, and
>>>>> their marketing strategy revolves around predatory capitalism.
>>>>>
>>>>> OpenOffice has been around since 2000, and they're just NOW claiming
>>>>> that they're "stealing" code for basic functionality?
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck with that...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You really shouldn't lecture me about MSFT. I spent the whole decade
>>>> of the 1990's working for MSFT in the sales & marketing division. I
>>>> didn't live Microsoft history, I made it. Get a reality check. Your
>>>> facts are laughable and dated.
>>>
>>> What's really "laughable" here is your horribly swollen attempts at
>>> grandiosity, ****ll.
>>>
>>>>
>>
>> ****ing interloper, fraud, charlatan, liar, ****ll.
>
> Run out of your medicine, ****ll?
>
Your blood sugar looks to be low ****ll. Take your shot, I'm paying for it.
You might as well enjoy it. Just don't forget to say thank you once in a
while.
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