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>>>>>>> > Re****t: Microsoft says open source violates 235 patents
>>>>>>> > Top Microsoft lawyer alleges in a magazine interview that the
>>>>>>> > Linux kernel
>>>>>>> > and OpenOffice.org violate hundreds of the company's patents.
>>>>>>> > By Ina Friedand Stephen Shankland
>>>>>>> > Staff Writer, CNET News.com
>>>>>>> > Published: May 13, 2007, 7:35 PM PDT
>>>>>>> > Last modified: May 13, 2007, 8:30 PM PDT
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>>>>>>> > Re****t: Microsoft says open source violates 235 patents
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > update Microsoft claims that free and open-source software
>>>>>>> > violates 235 of
>>>>>>> > its patents, according to a magazine re****t published Sunday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > In an interview with Fortune, Microsoft top lawyer Brad Smith
>>>>>>> > alleges that
>>>>>>> > the Linux kernel violates 42 Microsoft patents, while its user
>>>>>>> > interface
>>>>>>> > and other design elements infringe on a further 65.
OpenOffice.org
>>>>>>> > is
>>>>>>> > accused of infringing 45, along with 83 more in other free and
>>>>>>> > open-source
>>>>>>> > programs, according to Fortune.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > It is not entirely clear how Microsoft might proceed in
enforcing
>>>>>>> > these
>>>>>>> > patents, but the company has been encouraging large tech
companies
>>>>>>> > that
>>>>>>> > depend on Linux to ink patent deals, starting with its
>>>>>>> > controversial pact
>>>>>>> > with Novell last November. Microsoft has also cited Linux
>>>>>>> > protection
>>>>>>> > playing a role in recent patent swap deals with Samsung and Fuji
>>>>>>> > Xerox.
>>>>>>> > Microsoft has also had discussions but not reached a deal with
Red
>>>>>>> > Hat, as
>>>>>>> > noted in the Fortune article.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer is also quoted in the article as
>>>>>>> > saying
>>>>>>> > Microsoft's open-source competitors need to "play by the same
>>>>>>> > rules as the
>>>>>>> > rest of the business."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > "What's fair is fair," Ballmer told Fortune. "We live in a world
>>>>>>> > where we
>>>>>>> > honor, and sup****t the honoring of, intellectual property."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > The story notes that some big tech proponents of open source
have
>>>>>>> > been
>>>>>>> > stockpiling intellectual property as part of the Open Invention
>>>>>>> > Network,
>>>>>>> > set up in 2005 by folks like Sony, Red Hat, IBM, NEC and
Philips.
>>>>>>> > The
>>>>>>> > article surmises that if Microsoft were to go after open source,
>>>>>>> > these
>>>>>>> > companies' combined know-how might give it some patent weapons
to
>>>>>>> > go after
>>>>>>> > Windows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > A Microsoft representative did not immediately respond to an
>>>>>>> > e-mail
>>>>>>> > seeking comment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Given how deeply entrenched open-source software has become in
the
>>>>>>> > computing industry, taking direct legal action against the
>>>>>>> > open-source
>>>>>>> > realm would be a complicated, hackle-raising undertaking for
>>>>>>> > Microsoft.
>>>>>>> > Customers use open-source software widely, and many major
>>>>>>> > computing
>>>>>>> > companies--IBM, Dell, Sun Microsystems, Hewlett-Packard,
Motorola
>>>>>>> > and
>>>>>>> > Oracle, for example--sup****t Linux work directly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > It's not the first time that open-source patent concerns have
>>>>>>> > arisen. A
>>>>>>> > 2004 study by a Open Source Risk Management, a company selling
>>>>>>> > insurance
>>>>>>> > against risks of using open-source software, concluded that
Linux
>>>>>>> > could
>>>>>>> > violate at least 283 patents, 27 of them Microsoft patents.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Patents and the open-source movement get along awkwardly at
best.
>>>>>>> > Patent
>>>>>>> > law gives proprietary, exclusive rights to patent holders, but
>>>>>>> > open-source
>>>>>>> > programming is built on the idea of free sharing. Newer
>>>>>>> > open-source
>>>>>>> > licenses sometimes address the issue by requiring contributors
to
>>>>>>> > open-source projects to grant users and developers of the
software
>>>>>>> > a
>>>>>>> > perpetual, royalty-free license to any patents that relate to
the
>>>>>>> > contribution.
>>>>>>> > Now on News.com
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Different companies have dealt in different ways with the
>>>>>>> > open-source
>>>>>>> > patent conundrum. For example, HP has taken a pro-patent stance,
>>>>>>> > while
>>>>>>> > IBM, Nokia, Sun and others have granted some rights to use some
of
>>>>>>> > their
>>>>>>> > patents in open-source software.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > The Open Invention Network remains a relatively young effort,
but
>>>>>>> > it has
>>>>>>> > attracted participation this year from proprietary software
giant
>>>>>>> > Oracle
>>>>>>> > and from Linux sup****t seller Canonical. A company may license
the
>>>>>>> > network's patents for free as long as they promise not to assert
>>>>>>> > any
>>>>>>> > patent claims against those involved in the "Linux environment."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > The Free Software Foundation is working on a new draft of the
>>>>>>> > General
>>>>>>> > Public License, one element of which will ban partner****ps such
as
>>>>>>> > the one
>>>>>>> > struck by Novell and Microsoft.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Linux geeks love to bash MSFT. Yet they love to copy the
>>>>>>> features and
>>>>>>> funtionality of MSFT products. They only wish they had a product
>>>>>>> half as
>>>>>>> powerful and feature rich as MSFT has. The Linux geeks are
nothing
>>>>>>> but a
>>>>>>> bunch of thieves intent on destroying the rights of intellectual
>>>>>>> property
>>>>>>> owners.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Um.... do you know where MS got its original OS's from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you know where Internet Explorer came from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you know why MS Word, STILL a functionally inferior product to
>>>>>> Wordperfect, is the most popular word processor in the world?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MS hasn't had an original idea during their entire existence, and
>>>>>> their marketing strategy revolves around predatory capitalism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OpenOffice has been around since 2000, and they're just NOW
claiming
>>>>>> that they're "stealing" code for basic functionality?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck with that...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You really shouldn't lecture me about MSFT. I spent the whole
decade
>>>>> of the 1990's working for MSFT in the sales & marketing division. I
>>>>> didn't live Microsoft history, I made it. Get a reality check. Your
>>>>> facts are laughable and dated.
>>>>
>>>> What's really "laughable" here is your horribly swollen attempts at
>>>> grandiosity, ****ll.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> ****ing interloper, fraud, charlatan, liar, ****ll.
>>
>> Run out of your medicine, ****ll?
>>
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> Your blood sugar looks to be low
And yet YOU are the one who's doing a Tourette's dance for us.
Do you ever see just how transparent you really are?
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