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>>>>>> http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2
>>>>>> Fnews.com.com%2FRe****t%2BMicrosoft%2Bsays%2Bopen%2Bsource%2
>>>>>> Bviolates%2B235%2Bpatents%2F2100-1014_3-6183437.html
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>>>>>> Re****t: Microsoft says open source violates 235 patents
>>>>>> Top Microsoft lawyer alleges in a magazine interview that
>>>>>> the Linux kernel and OpenOffice.org violate hundreds of
>>>>>> the company's patents. By Ina Friedand Stephen Shankland
>>>>>> Staff Writer, CNET News.com
>>>>>> Published: May 13, 2007, 7:35 PM PDT
>>>>>> Last modified: May 13, 2007, 8:30 PM PDT
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>>>>>> 235 patents
>>>>>>
>>>>>> update Microsoft claims that free and open-source software
>>>>>> violates 235 of its patents, according to a magazine
>>>>>> re****t published Sunday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In an interview with Fortune, Microsoft top lawyer Brad
>>>>>> Smith alleges that the Linux kernel violates 42 Microsoft
>>>>>> patents, while its user interface and other design
>>>>>> elements infringe on a further 65. OpenOffice.org is
>>>>>> accused of infringing 45, along with 83 more in other
>>>>>> free and open-source programs, according to Fortune.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is not entirely clear how Microsoft might proceed in
>>>>>> enforcing these patents, but the company has been
>>>>>> encouraging large tech companies that depend on Linux to
>>>>>> ink patent deals, starting with its controversial pact
>>>>>> with Novell last November. Microsoft has also cited Linux
>>>>>> protection playing a role in recent patent swap deals with
>>>>>> Samsung and Fuji Xerox. Microsoft has also had discussions
>>>>>> but not reached a deal with Red Hat, as noted in the
>>>>>> Fortune article.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer is also quoted in the article
>>>>>> as saying Microsoft's open-source competitors need to
>>>>>> "play by the same rules as the rest of the business."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "What's fair is fair," Ballmer told Fortune. "We live in a
>>>>>> world where we honor, and sup****t the honoring of,
>>>>>> intellectual property."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The story notes that some big tech proponents of open
>>>>>> source have been stockpiling intellectual property as part
>>>>>> of the Open Invention Network, set up in 2005 by folks
>>>>>> like Sony, Red Hat, IBM, NEC and Philips. The article
>>>>>> surmises that if Microsoft were to go after open source,
>>>>>> these companies' combined know-how might give it some
>>>>>> patent weapons to go after Windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A Microsoft representative did not immediately respond to
>>>>>> an e-mail seeking comment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Given how deeply entrenched open-source software has
>>>>>> become in the computing industry, taking direct legal
>>>>>> action against the open-source realm would be a
>>>>>> complicated, hackle-raising undertaking for Microsoft.
>>>>>> Customers use open-source software widely, and many major
>>>>>> computing companies--IBM, Dell, Sun Microsystems,
>>>>>> Hewlett-Packard, Motorola and Oracle, for example--sup****t
>>>>>> Linux work directly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not the first time that open-source patent concerns
>>>>>> have arisen. A 2004 study by a Open Source Risk
>>>>>> Management, a company selling insurance against risks of
>>>>>> using open-source software, concluded that Linux could
>>>>>> violate at least 283 patents, 27 of them Microsoft
>>>>>> patents.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patents and the open-source movement get along awkwardly
>>>>>> at best. Patent law gives proprietary, exclusive rights to
>>>>>> patent holders, but open-source programming is built on
>>>>>> the idea of free sharing. Newer open-source licenses
>>>>>> sometimes address the issue by requiring contributors to
>>>>>> open-source projects to grant users and developers of
>>>>>> the software a perpetual, royalty-free license to any
>>>>>> patents that relate to the contribution.
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>>>>>> Different companies have dealt in different ways with the
>>>>>> open-source patent conundrum. For example, HP has taken a
>>>>>> pro-patent stance, while IBM, Nokia, Sun and others have
>>>>>> granted some rights to use some of their patents in
>>>>>> open-source software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Open Invention Network remains a relatively young
>>>>>> effort, but it has attracted participation this year from
>>>>>> proprietary software giant Oracle and from Linux sup****t
>>>>>> seller Canonical. A company may license the network's
>>>>>> patents for free as long as they promise not to assert any
>>>>>> patent claims against those involved in the "Linux
>>>>>> environment."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Free Software Foundation is working on a new draft of
>>>>>> the General Public License, one element of which will ban
>>>>>> partner****ps such as the one struck by Novell and
>>>>>> Microsoft.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Linux geeks love to bash MSFT. Yet they love to copy
>>>>> the features and funtionality of MSFT products. They only
>>>>> wish they had a product half as powerful and feature rich
>>>>> as MSFT has. The Linux geeks are nothing but a bunch of
>>>>> thieves intent on destroying the rights of intellectual
>>>>> property owners.
>>>>
>>>> Billary, try pulling your head out of your ass at least once
>>>> a month...
>>>>
>>>> Linux's kernel is based upon open-source codebases dating
>>>> back to the early days of UNIX. The user interface runs on
>>>> top of the open-sourced X-windows system. These codebases
>>>> were in use before the earliest version of Windows, which
>>>> was developed *in response to* the X-windows and the [then
>>>> dominant] Macintosh operating system. It was Microsoft that
>>>> copied its features and GUI design from Apple (who copied it
>>>> from Xerox PARC in the late 1970's), not the other way
>>>> around.
>>>>
>>>> Since the open source movement is very strict about only
>>>> using open sourced codebases, and since another company
>>>> (SCO) has already attempted to sue Linux out of existence -
>>>> and failed miserably - I don't think anybody is too worried
>>>> about Microsoft. If they're smart, they'll co-opt Linux
>>>> (embrace and extend) rather than attempt to sue it out of
>>>> existence (which will fail). They're likely attempting a
>>>> multi-pronged attack.
>>>>
>>>> It its infamous lawsuit, SCO claimed that it had evidence of
>>>> significant patent infringement in the Linux codebase. As
>>>> it turned out, they were lying. They had nothing. Nada.
>>>> Zilch. The case was thrown out - but not until their stock
>>>> had soared many months, making the execs and their lawyers
>>>> very rich. MSFT is very likely attempting a more expensive
>>>> version of the SCO gambit: Spew massive FUD all over the
>>>> headlines, drag the case out for a couple of years, watch
>>>> your stock climb as you threaten large Linux shops
>>>> (especially recent converts) with crippling lawsuits should
>>>> they continue to resist Microsoft's expensive, bloated,
>>>> insecure, bug-ridden, proprietary products. Typical
>>>> monopolist tactics.
>>>>
>>>> There's a reason that Microsoft has been likened to the
>>>> alient "Borg" from Star Trek. Resistance is futile.
>>>>
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>>> Take YOUR head out of YOUR ass. MSFT isn't trying to kill
>>> Linux, they're trying to defend their patents. Any owner of
>>> intellectual property would do the same. You're so critical
>>> of the MS-OS yet assholes like you aren't qualified to write
>>> a single line of code beyond "hello world". So shut the ****
>>> up you thief.
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>> And Bill stole windows from Steve who stole it from Xerox
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>> So shut the **** up, you thief.
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> Wrong asshole. Steve stole it from Xerox, then sold it to Bill. Stop
> talking out of your ass.
Why insist in others what you do not insist in yourself, ****ll?
You've been pulling nearly your entire louvre out of your ass since the
moment you started posting.
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